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Question for freethinkers
4th June 2011, 23:54
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(4th June 2011 23:50)tackattack Wrote:  Why is it a stupid question? Having a creativity lapse or just don't like thinking outside the box?

It is plainly stupid to ask those who don't believe in something to then describe it.
And stuff your thinking outside the box up your...
HuhA man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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4th June 2011, 23:57
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methinks I touched a nerve... I agree it's a fruitless exercise. But it is a mental exercise and that at least holds some value. I'm curious for the deist answer. Popcorn
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5th June 2011, 00:00
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(4th June 2011 23:57)tackattack Wrote:  methinks I touched a nerve... I agree it's a fruitless exercise. But it is a mental exercise and that at least holds some value. I'm curious for the deist answer. Popcorn

What deist answer?
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5th June 2011, 00:04
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The only God I could imagine is one who is simply a creator and never has anything to do with existence after that for whatever reason.
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5th June 2011, 00:05
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(4th June 2011 23:45)tackattack Wrote:  I think he's just trying to say, if you could envision a god existing, what would be it's attributes.

Ahhh, that's better Heart

He would be just like Larry Heart
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5th June 2011, 00:49
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Quote:I agree it's a fruitless exercise.


Much as is praying.
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5th June 2011, 02:03
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I can give you answer to question of what has tested my faith. And one of the things is animals eating animals while they are still alive out in the wild. I thought why would God make it so. I thought that human cruelty is a matter of choice hence the free will , so you have to have it but why this? Why make ants and other insects that we walk on at times? These are some of the things that in past have tested my faith. Thanks
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5th June 2011, 06:41
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(4th June 2011 23:54)bozo Wrote:  
(4th June 2011 23:50)tackattack Wrote:  Why is it a stupid question? Having a creativity lapse or just don't like thinking outside the box?

It is plainly stupid to ask those who don't believe in something to then describe it.
And stuff your thinking outside the box up your...

If asked, could you describe a dragon? I would say yes, most people can.

But do you believe in them? Most likely no.

As to the OP, Since the universe is old beyond our imagining and vast beyond our comprehension a(theoretical) intelligent first cause would similarly be far beyond our ability to understand or perceive.

So even if there is a IFC(or, if you prefer, god) it is exceedingly unlikely that it knows or cares about us.
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5th June 2011, 06:51
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(4th June 2011 23:14)Pel Wrote:  This is a question for atheists, deists and such. If you were to be asked what is God like and why in case he existed what would you say? The answer should be based on your observation and reflection of everything that has surounded you. Also try to look into your emotions. Thanks

There is no god as set down by any man made relgion for the past 6,000 years. end of story.
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5th June 2011, 07:49 (This post was last modified: 5th June 2011 08:00 by eric209.)
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It appears you are not exactly clear on what athiesm means. I'm not sure what your trying to say. It would be maybe better asked if you asked us how we would invent a God or superhero even. I think your question would be better answered by a pastafarian.
(5th June 2011 02:03)Pel Wrote:  I can give you answer to question of what has tested my faith. And one of the things is animals eating animals while they are still alive out in the wild. I thought why would God make it so. I thought that human cruelty is a matter of choice hence the free will , so you have to have it but why this? Why make ants and other insects that we walk on at times? These are some of the things that in past have tested my faith. Thanks

I would suggest to you to understand how basic microbes eat other microbes which are eaten by larger creatures and then larger all the way up the foodchain to an apex predator. It has nothing to do with a Creator but simple economics. The species that adapted to eat other life instead of foraging all day has more time for mating and rearing young.
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