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Dark magic could not veil us from you o Ali.
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RE: Dark magic could not veil us from you o Ali.
(December 25, 2016 at 5:36 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think Ali is Mohammed?

"You've got that backward, sistah."

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RE: Dark magic could not veil us from you o Ali.
(December 25, 2016 at 5:36 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(December 25, 2016 at 3:46 pm)Alex K Wrote: Who's Ali though?

I think Ali is Mohammed?

Ali is to Mohammad, as Aeron is to Moses, except that Ali is not a Prophet (ie. he reveals no revelation to humanity from God).

Mohammad name is apparent in Quran while Ali name is of it's less apparent themes except for the hearts that pay attention.

...obey the Messenger and those who possess the authority from you....

Ali was the first of those who possess the authority from the nation to take leadership and the 1st of the 12 Captains that Sail by the name of God from the covenant of seal of Prophets.

But the essential thing is from I want to share what I believe is TRUE morality. During Jesus time it was Jesus, during Mohammad time it was Mohammad, during Ali time it was Ali.

Now it's Imam Al-Mahdi (the 12th Successor) that holds the name of God and is the tree of light that extends to all things.

During time between Mohammad and Jesus, it was Elijah (Elyas in Quran).

There is always one with us in in the spiritual world connecting us to God.

There is no path but the door of light that God has opened for us. 

It's not fallible Church neither fallible scholars neither is a community that can interpret God's book authority, it's a leader appointed by God that will make us hear it and see the light we must follow, and the connection we must do, the inward spirit of how we must bow and prostate.

Atheist problem with religion is valid, it's always hijacked by people claiming to be authorities on behalf of God and the gatekeepers of the revelation.

The real guide after Jesus was Elijah (Elyas) who was alive on earth.  Fallible leaders cannot become those who represent God's teachings with authority.

Atheists are also right that if God is objective morality but we are all misguided in that, it has no application. The solution is the objective morality is connected to us somehow and is not part of who we are but with us, and lives with us. As far we follow and submit to it, we are from it. If we follow the falsehood and darkness created from Satan and his minions, we are bastards born from Satan.

This is my view.  I am no longer sugar coating "objective morality", it's the leader and guide of time, that's the reality, and there is no possibility of another type of objective morality.
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RE: Dark magic could not veil us from you o Ali.
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So is Ali is one of the really important ppl in your faith? Would you say he's kind of like Paul in Christianity?

Is al mahdi like your pope?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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It appears to be poetry but I am not really sure...
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#16
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Dear fucking god, this is worse than tumblr.
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RE: Dark magic could not veil us from you o Ali.
(December 25, 2016 at 5:50 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: So is Ali is one of the really important ppl in your faith? Would you say he's kind of like Paul in Christianity?

Is al mahdi like your pope?

Well I'm not sure about, Paul sometimes people say everything he says is from God. But when he is quoted on things like hair of women and it's better to shave it all than to show it or what not, they say that is his opinion and is not from God.

Also, Paul was one time "bad", then became a Saint.

But Ali was always upon the straight path.

Pope is chosen by people, Imam Mahdi is chosen by God and is the one humanity will be lead by to establish justice and restore balance in the world.

I don't know how to accurately explain this except in a long way so bear with me.


1. Before creation of physical world, God test all spirits.
2. The ones who responded to him with utmost possible way of love, resolve, and praise, and submission, became the exalted ones, the most praised ones to the extent they are only praised. 
3. The ones who responded in exalted manner but lacked some of that utmost perfect resolve to God and submission to him, they were also exalted and chosen.
4. Mohammad, Ali, Fatima, and their exalted family were of the people of 2. I believe in every universe, there exists such creation.
5. Prophets were eventually guided to the path of utmost resolve, praise, and submission, but did swerve somewhat from that, but they never did evil, but did "sin" in the sense of missing the mark of God's Perfect Name. Mohammad and his family were always that perfect path and never swerved nor ever will.
6.  When God created physical worlds, in every universe, he creates with the best of those who raced ahead to God...and they teach the Angels/Spirits to glorify God, etc....
7. Eventually he seals the physical earthly beings with their leadership and guidance, and seals the revelations and books through them.
8. Up to that point, he also due to his love of exalted ones that fell short of perfection, uses them as Prophets and leaders, and when he guides them to utmost submission (the highest possible will to have), they become the worthy of being the "Guide or Master trainer of souls" of age.

The Mahdi is final of all chosen ones and the remaining one from the family of Yaseen/Taha/Mohammad.


I hope that explains my stance on who Ali is. 

With peace and blessings and Merry Christmas!
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#18
RE: Dark magic could not veil us from you o Ali.
But seriously, what the hell is this?
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#19
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(December 25, 2016 at 6:05 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: But seriously, what the hell is this?

Insanity
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RE: Dark magic could not veil us from you o Ali.
(December 25, 2016 at 6:39 pm)RozKek Wrote:
(December 25, 2016 at 6:05 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: But seriously, what the hell is this?

Insanity

Better the truth be found in insanity, then the dullness in falsehood (Atheism).

In a world where God exists, it should be no surprise that the reality is majestic and the path to him full of wonders.
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