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If This Doesn't De-Trumpify You, Nothing Will
#11
RE: If This Doesn't De-Trumpify You, Nothing Will
(January 10, 2017 at 6:33 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: So you think he'll lie about the results of a study?

No. I suspect that the study itself will be politically motivated, which is to say, not based in reality.

Seriously, if the man was acquainted with the reality ask it exists today, he wouldn't BE an anti-vaxxer.
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#12
RE: If This Doesn't De-Trumpify You, Nothing Will
This is the second time CL has played ignorant with regards to what she writes.

But let's look at your own writing:

(January 10, 2017 at 6:26 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Well then the study will provide proof that there is no link.

First off, you're asking to prove a negative, which cannot be done. As a Theist you should damn well know you can't prove the lack of existence of an entity within the natural universe.

Second, you've weighed one guys political beliefs and practices in the same weight as the combined public health victories and discoveries. What the ever loving fuck.
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#13
RE: If This Doesn't De-Trumpify You, Nothing Will
(January 10, 2017 at 6:38 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(January 10, 2017 at 6:33 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: So you think he'll lie about the results of a study?

No.  I suspect that the study itself will be politically motivated, which is to say, not based in reality.

Seriously, if the man was acquainted with the reality ask it exists today, he wouldn't BE an anti-vaxxer.

My guess is that they'll do a study and come up with nothing conclusive and they'll just never mention anything about it to the public. A non issue, imho.
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#14
RE: If This Doesn't De-Trumpify You, Nothing Will
I have about as much confidence in a vaccine study produced by RFK Jr and his ilk as I have that my penis is 10' long and able to sing the falsetto parts from 'Rigoletto'.

Boru

my penis is a tenor. the rest of it is perfectly plausible
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RE: If This Doesn't De-Trumpify You, Nothing Will
(January 10, 2017 at 6:42 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: This is the second time CL has played ignorant  with regards to what she writes.

But let's look at your own writing:

Quote:Well then the study will provide proof that there is no link.

First off, you're asking to prove a negative, which cannot be done. As a Theist you should damn well know you can't prove the lack of existence of an entity within the natural universe.

Second, you've weighed one guys political beliefs and practices in the same weight as the combined public health victories and discoveries. What the ever loving fuck.

Ummm ok. 

I have no idea what you are referring to, but if this is how you're going to talk to me (making assumptions about me and accusing me of opinions I don't hold) then I don't see a reason to engage with you. Maybe you're in a pissy mood and decided to take it out on me. Hope you feel better.

(January 10, 2017 at 6:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I have about as much confidence in a vaccine study produced by RFK Jr and his ilk as I have that my penis is 10' long and able to sing the falsetto parts from 'Rigoletto'.

Boru

my penis is a tenor.  the rest of it is perfectly plausible

Hopefully there are enough doctors out there who will disagree with them so vehemently that it really won't change the general public's mind. My mother and father in law are both family physicians and they think the whole vaccine scare is ridiculous. I doubt any sort of politically motivated "study" will change their mind and/or make them stop recommending it to their patients.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#16
RE: If This Doesn't De-Trumpify You, Nothing Will
(January 10, 2017 at 6:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Hopefully there are enough doctors out there who will disagree with them so vehemently that it really won't change the general public's mind.

The damage is already done. People tend to look at the sensationalist feeds and don't bother with the debunking efforts. There's an abundance of rigged studies. If everyone were to look at the serious researchers, there wouldn't be any climate change deniers left or anti vaxxers for that matter. But they are out there and they always find or buy some fringe scientist singing their tune. I suspect that's the whole purpose of the game. Just the same as with other departments Trump assigned so far. They all have a record of wanting to dismantle the departments they're now heading.
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#17
RE: If This Doesn't De-Trumpify You, Nothing Will
(January 10, 2017 at 7:10 pm)abaris Wrote:
(January 10, 2017 at 6:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Hopefully there are enough doctors out there who will disagree with them so vehemently that it really won't change the general public's mind.

The damage is already done. People tend to look at the sensationalist feeds and don't bother with the debunking efforts. There's an abundance of rigged studies. If everyone were to look at the serious researchers, there wouldn't be any climate change deniers left or anti vaxxers for that matter. But they are out there and they always find or buy some fringe scientist singing their tune. I suspect that's the whole purpose of the game. Just the same as with other departments Trump assigned so far. They all have a record of wanting to dismantle the departments they're now heading.

Well, 97% of scientists isn't "enough disagreement" for the no-global-warming folks
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#18
RE: If This Doesn't De-Trumpify You, Nothing Will
Update: Trump's people are denying that RFK Jr was offered the job, RFK Jr told reporters he was offered and accepted.

Somebody's lying.

Boru
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#19
RE: If This Doesn't De-Trumpify You, Nothing Will
Trump  , Kennedy and those in the upper income class probably have their kids immunized. They just don't give a shit if the poor folks do. You know, better to reduce the surplus population.

The rise in autism diagnosis is due to better accuracy in that diagnosis and the expansion of autism into a spectrum of disorders. Some who have autism are quite charming and intelligent people who function quite well and perhaps better than most under certain conditions. In the past only those with extreme disability were diagnosed. Any comments?
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#20
RE: If This Doesn't De-Trumpify You, Nothing Will
(January 10, 2017 at 6:33 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: So you think he'll lie about the results of a study?

Sorry, I don't mean to be argumentative aND I'm not an anti vaxxer. I just don't see what the huge deal is about this.

Are you, perhaps, familiar with Andrew Wakefield, the one who began the anti-vaxxer hysteria? In particular, the immense conflicts of interest and fudging of data in his study that eventually led him to lose his license?

What I'm saying is, anti-vaxxers of a particular stripe have a history of not letting the facts get in the way of promulgating their narrative. They'll falsify or skew studies to preserve their conclusions, if a poorly formulated study gives them what they want while a properly done one doesn't, they'll take the former and ignore the latter. The point is that to be an anti-vaxxer at all requires a certain willingness to ignore the majority of studies that disagree, and cleave to those that conclude the presupposed conclusion, no matter how malformed or biased they are.

The concern that lies and unscrupulously produced studies will be employed is more than real.
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