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Christianity and the 10 Commandments
23rd February 2012, 16:21
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(23rd February 2012 14:48)chipan Wrote:  Mt St Helens formed 100 foot cliffs in a matter of hours. It had layers and everything.

And the white cliffs of dover exist because trillions of sea living coccolithophores drowned in the flood simultaneously?
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23rd February 2012, 16:29
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(23rd February 2012 16:21)NoMoreFaith Wrote:  
(23rd February 2012 14:48)chipan Wrote:  Mt St Helens formed 100 foot cliffs in a matter of hours. It had layers and everything.

And the white cliffs of dover exist because trillions of sea living coccolithophores drowned in the flood simultaneously?

Is he really that dumb he thinks the Earth is fully represented by the tiny geological formation of a few cliffs because of a volcano? Makes me wonder how the fucker remembers to breath.
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23rd February 2012, 16:37 (This post was last modified: 23rd February 2012 16:39 by LastPoet.)
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(23rd February 2012 14:48)chipan Wrote:  Ok so I will try posting some scientific facts. Evolution is often based on regular event. It often doesn't take bigger events into account. Example, cliffs which have layers were formed a little at a time for millions of years. It's very possible for them to form very quickly. Mt St Helens formed 100 foot cliffs in a matter of hours. It had layers and everything.

That is a straight up lie, please cite your source. Evolution is not based on geology only, but it takes into account events as volcanoes. The nature of the volcanic activity, shows layers of solidified lava, then pyroclastic particles. Your claim makes a mockery of Geology, and all the hard work done to understand its field. You are a liar, because you perfectly know you didn't get any proper education on geology at all, you have seen it in a creationist site, proof? Give me your source!


PS- OrogenicMan would have alot of fun with you on this subject.
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23rd February 2012, 18:40
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You have to argue your evidence in? You argue for your conclusions, you don't bicker about what is or is not evidence. No special considerations will be given. Your evidence must stand up to the same scrutiny that all other evidence stands up to. There will be no "paranoid conspiracy theorist classification" of evidence. Creation rags are not science, they are political organs.
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23rd February 2012, 18:55
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(22nd February 2012 20:33)Godschild Wrote:  
(22nd February 2012 06:04)Minimalist Wrote:  
Quote:I've never claimed the earth is 6000 years old and have stated it could be 50,0000.


I can't keep track of all of your silly claims...and they are legion.

BTW, are you trying to say 50,000 or 500,000 ( oh what a difference a little comma makes) which would be an improvement but still incredibly wrong.

Sorry one to many zeros.



Actually, far too few.

So the creationists aren't going to like you either. Must be lonely?
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23rd February 2012, 19:37 (This post was last modified: 23rd February 2012 19:37 by Stimbo.)
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Jeez Louise, this age of the Earth/Universe stuff was settled decades ago, by dedicated individuals who actually got off their arses and did the work. Someone really needs to put together a pic of Einstein, Hubble, Lemaître, Herman, Alpher, Bethe, Gamow etc indulging in a group facepalm.

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24th February 2012, 00:19
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(23rd February 2012 18:40)Rhythm Wrote:  You have to argue your evidence in? You argue for your conclusions, you don't bicker about what is or is not evidence. No special considerations will be given. Your evidence must stand up to the same scrutiny that all other evidence stands up to. There will be no "paranoid conspiracy theorist classification" of evidence. Creation rags are not science, they are political organs.

I am not going to play in this double standard game. A geologists can say that cliff took millions of years to form based on nothing but observation but when someone walks around and says that took days to form all the scientist does is ridicule. The only reason those cliffs form Mt St Helens isn't guessed to have formed gradually is because they saw it happen. Otherwise they would say "oh look a cliff, that's a gradual process." I made a prediction that I would present evedince that these long processes can be shortened and all I got was "no." if that's the case nothing I say can change your minds because you are not open to new ideas. This process happened therefore it's plausable.
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24th February 2012, 02:29
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(24th February 2012 00:19)chipan Wrote:  This process happened therefore it's plausable.

Wow, you learned a new word. Now learn probable.
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24th February 2012, 10:29
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(24th February 2012 02:29)Phil Wrote:  
(24th February 2012 00:19)chipan Wrote:  This process happened therefore it's plausable.

Wow, you learned a new word. Now learn probable.

Well you can choose to believe what you want but you can't say gradual process is most likely because there is no other plausable answer when there actually is.
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24th February 2012, 11:26
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(24th February 2012 00:19)chipan Wrote:  
(23rd February 2012 18:40)Rhythm Wrote:  You have to argue your evidence in? You argue for your conclusions, you don't bicker about what is or is not evidence. No special considerations will be given. Your evidence must stand up to the same scrutiny that all other evidence stands up to. There will be no "paranoid conspiracy theorist classification" of evidence. Creation rags are not science, they are political organs.

I am not going to play in this double standard game. A geologists can say that cliff took millions of years to form based on nothing but observation but when someone walks around and says that took days to form all the scientist does is ridicule. The only reason those cliffs form Mt St Helens isn't guessed to have formed gradually is because they saw it happen. Otherwise they would say "oh look a cliff, that's a gradual process." I made a prediction that I would present evedince that these long processes can be shortened and all I got was "no." if that's the case nothing I say can change your minds because you are not open to new ideas. This process happened therefore it's plausable.

The Mt St Helens cliffs were formed when water cut through thick layers of soft fresh ash deposited by the eruption. It might as well have been sand.
There is a huge difference between that and something like granite which takes millions of years to erode the same amount.

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