Except that this is exactly how it works Frods. You want your bearded man. Make it so. Until then, doesn't exist. Unless, of course, my bearded man, who is much more powerful than your own, that essentially just sits a few feet higher and shits on your own -that I just made up on the spot- is equally as real. In which case, I'm willing to bend, and allow you to squirm a bit.

(24th April 2012 23:16)wtfbbq Wrote:  Uh... I guess I have to go reword this a lot because that's certainly not where I was trying to go.

Heh

Well the theistic position seems meaningless, but I guess that's how it's meant to sound from an atheist.

Yes there's a lot of pointless chest beating and too little delving into the interesting variation in ideas.

Progression happens when you learn something.

"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck."

Did somebody say something about meaninglessness?

(25th April 2012 00:14)fr0d0 Wrote:  Heh

Well the theistic position seems meaningless, but I guess that's how it's meant to sound from an atheist.

I certainly don't want to say that the theistic position is meaningless. I'm trying to ask if there's something to the theistic or the atheistic position that they're overlooking in discourse.

(24th April 2012 23:00)fr0d0 Wrote:  Also...

Ted: A bearded man in the sky is repsonsible for nothing.

Bob: What is your proof?

Ted: What is your proof that he is?

Bob: That's not how making a claim such as yours works.

Ted: Oh, you can't prove it? I win.


But mostly...

Bob: <any question>

A) Ted: piss take; insult

B) Ted: change the subject <do A>

Meaningless pap.

Theists might claim that a man in the sky is responsible for everything, but atheists don't claim a man in the sky is responsible for nothing!

We claim that we don't believe there is a man in the sky.

(25th April 2012 00:16)wtfbbq Wrote:  I certainly don't want to say that the theistic position is meaningless. I'm trying to ask if there's something to the theistic or the atheistic position that they're overlooking in discourse.

Yes, and kudos. See my edit above

<-This one does. There is no man in the sky, and this imaginary man in the sky is responsible for nothing. There is, however, a man in Frodo's head, and this imaginary man is responsible for a great many things.

(25th April 2012 00:14)fr0d0 Wrote:  Well the theistic position seems meaningless

We have progress.

(25th April 2012 00:21)Norfolk And Chance Wrote:  

(25th April 2012 00:14)fr0d0 Wrote:  Well the theistic position seems meaningless

We have progress.

You don't have to try so hard Norf you're already on the list

Is it an imaginary list or a real one?