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    Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: RE: The Limits of Possible Explanation

(March 17, 2009 at 1:12 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: You mean that if a "first cause" was ever found then it could only explain everything else and not itself? And therefore since itself is part of the...
Mark Atheism 20 10575 March 17, 2009 at 10:24 pm
    Thread: Existence of Jesus
Post: RE: Existence of Jesus

(March 17, 2009 at 11:10 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Oh so you do see a point in continuing the discussion? So be it. Yes, I wanted to tie up a few loose ends, and especially to point out that the standar...
Mark Christianity 107 37673 March 17, 2009 at 11:44 am
    Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: RE: The Limits of Possible Explanation

(March 17, 2009 at 9:23 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: (March 17, 2009 at 8:47 am)Mark Wrote: The point is this: however certain or uncertain we may be of what the set of all existing things consists ...
Mark Atheism 20 10575 March 17, 2009 at 11:30 am
    Thread: Existence of Jesus
Post: RE: Existence of Jesus

(March 17, 2009 at 4:29 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: (March 16, 2009 at 1:53 pm)Mark Wrote: Others reading all this, if any indeed have the patience for it, will have to judge which of us has made the be...
Mark Christianity 107 37673 March 17, 2009 at 10:53 am
    Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: RE: The Limits of Possible Explanation

(March 16, 2009 at 8:43 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: (March 16, 2009 at 12:46 pm)Mark Wrote: There may be a "first cause" but if so, it is futile to seek its cause.But how would you make sure that it...
Mark Atheism 20 10575 March 17, 2009 at 8:47 am
    Thread: Existence of Jesus
Post: RE: Existence of Jesus

(March 13, 2009 at 7:37 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Etc., etc. Well, I think we have been around this mulberry bush enough, so I will not rejoin point by point. Others reading all this, if any indeed hav...
Mark Christianity 107 37673 March 16, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: RE: The Limits of Possible Explanation

(March 14, 2009 at 10:22 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Mark...if I understand you correct - you are saying that if we found a cause...and origin for everything then that would become part of the univers...
Mark Atheism 20 10575 March 16, 2009 at 12:46 pm
    Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: RE: The Limits of Possible Explanation

(March 12, 2009 at 5:01 pm)Sam Wrote: Mark, I apologise if I have given you the impression that i believe there is a "special class of explanation which fails to supply an account of the relationshi...
Mark Atheism 20 10575 March 13, 2009 at 12:40 pm
    Thread: Existence of Jesus
Post: RE: Existence of Jesus

(March 13, 2009 at 9:18 am)Giff Wrote: Is there a document that says that Jesus existed, from the supposed time when he lived? I have never heared of such document. The gospels in the bible are wr...
Mark Christianity 107 37673 March 13, 2009 at 11:48 am
    Thread: Existence of Jesus
Post: RE: Existence of Jesus

(March 12, 2009 at 4:50 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: (March 12, 2009 at 12:51 pm)Mark Wrote: As I say, I am not an expert on this subject, but my first point of reference on most things is wikipedia, whi...
Mark Christianity 107 37673 March 13, 2009 at 9:26 am
    Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: RE: The Limits of Possible Explanation

(March 12, 2009 at 4:14 pm)Sam Wrote: I appreciate your position, but see it as wild speculation. The main assumption here is that an explanation of the relationships between all things (i.e. a unif...
Mark Atheism 20 10575 March 12, 2009 at 4:44 pm
    Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: RE: The Limits of Possible Explanation

(March 12, 2009 at 11:55 am)Sam Wrote: Interesting points raised here Mark, I think the problem comes from your reasoning, i.e. My house is red because I had it painted etc ... In my opinion this s...
Mark Atheism 20 10575 March 12, 2009 at 1:37 pm
    Thread: Existence of Jesus
Post: RE: Existence of Jesus

I didn't see this, sorry. (March 12, 2009 at 9:33 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: (March 12, 2009 at 8:40 am)Mark Wrote: Well actually if you read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus , you ...
Mark Christianity 107 37673 March 12, 2009 at 12:51 pm
    Thread: Existence of Jesus
Post: RE: Existence of Jesus

(March 12, 2009 at 11:17 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: (March 12, 2009 at 10:39 am)Mark Wrote: You really should read the wikipedia reference that I supplied above, before you accept chatpilot's sweeping ...
Mark Christianity 107 37673 March 12, 2009 at 11:19 am
    Thread: Existence of Jesus
Post: RE: Existence of Jesus

(March 12, 2009 at 10:13 am)chatpilot Wrote: Most of these arguments regarding the secular evidence of the existence of Jesus such as Josephus etc. Have been proven to be inserted at a later time an...
Mark Christianity 107 37673 March 12, 2009 at 10:39 am
    Thread: Existence of Jesus
Post: RE: Existence of Jesus

(March 12, 2009 at 9:33 am)Giff Wrote: Make sence what you say there. But if he was an importent person for those who believed in him during that time. Then there atleast should some evidence left. ...
Mark Christianity 107 37673 March 12, 2009 at 10:31 am
    Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: The Limits of Possible Explanation

I argue here that there can be no explanation of the set of all things that exist, considered as a totality. This point is important, since religious believers often advance the proposition that a go...
Mark Atheism 20 10575 March 12, 2009 at 10:17 am
    Thread: Existence of Jesus
Post: RE: Existence of Jesus

(March 11, 2009 at 6:08 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: (March 11, 2009 at 2:03 pm)Mark Wrote: Also Jesus was mentioned by the classical historian Josephus, who was not a Christian. It is not impossible of...
Mark Christianity 107 37673 March 12, 2009 at 8:40 am
    Thread: Existence of Jesus
Post: RE: Existence of Jesus

(March 11, 2009 at 9:56 am)chatpilot Wrote: It is pretty hard to crucify someone who did not exist.As a matter of fact crucicixion was the popular method of execution by the Romans,so this was not e...
Mark Christianity 107 37673 March 11, 2009 at 2:03 pm
    Thread: Evidence that God exists
Post: RE: Evidence that God exists

I apologize to all, but it is necessary for me to quote so as to keep clear what argument applies to what previous discussion. (March 10, 2009 at 7:08 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (March 10, 2009 at 11:35 am)...
Mark Religion 346 187945 March 11, 2009 at 10:40 am