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Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: RE: The Limits of Possible Explanation
(March 17, 2009 at 1:12 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: You mean that if a "first cause" was ever found then it could only explain everything else and not itself? And therefore since itself is part of the... |
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Thread: Existence of Jesus
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(March 17, 2009 at 11:10 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Oh so you do see a point in continuing the discussion? So be it.
Yes, I wanted to tie up a few loose ends, and especially to point out that the standar... |
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March 17, 2009 at 11:44 am |
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Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: RE: The Limits of Possible Explanation
(March 17, 2009 at 9:23 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: (March 17, 2009 at 8:47 am)Mark Wrote: The point is this: however certain or uncertain we may be of what the set of all existing things consists ... |
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March 17, 2009 at 11:30 am |
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Thread: Existence of Jesus
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(March 17, 2009 at 4:29 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: (March 16, 2009 at 1:53 pm)Mark Wrote: Others reading all this, if any indeed have the patience for it, will have to judge which of us has made the be... |
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March 17, 2009 at 10:53 am |
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Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: RE: The Limits of Possible Explanation
(March 16, 2009 at 8:43 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: (March 16, 2009 at 12:46 pm)Mark Wrote: There may be a "first cause" but if so, it is futile to seek its cause.But how would you make sure that it... |
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March 17, 2009 at 8:47 am |
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Thread: Existence of Jesus
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(March 13, 2009 at 7:37 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Etc., etc.
Well, I think we have been around this mulberry bush enough, so I will not rejoin point by point. Others reading all this, if any indeed hav... |
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March 16, 2009 at 1:53 pm |
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Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: RE: The Limits of Possible Explanation
(March 14, 2009 at 10:22 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Mark...if I understand you correct - you are saying that if we found a cause...and origin for everything then that would become part of the univers... |
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March 16, 2009 at 12:46 pm |
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Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: RE: The Limits of Possible Explanation
(March 12, 2009 at 5:01 pm)Sam Wrote: Mark, I apologise if I have given you the impression that i believe there is a "special class of explanation which fails to supply an account of the relationshi... |
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March 13, 2009 at 12:40 pm |
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Thread: Existence of Jesus
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(March 13, 2009 at 9:18 am)Giff Wrote: Is there a document that says that Jesus existed, from the supposed time when he lived? I have never heared of such document.
The gospels in the bible are wr... |
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March 13, 2009 at 11:48 am |
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Thread: Existence of Jesus
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(March 12, 2009 at 4:50 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: (March 12, 2009 at 12:51 pm)Mark Wrote: As I say, I am not an expert on this subject, but my first point of reference on most things is wikipedia, whi... |
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March 13, 2009 at 9:26 am |
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Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: RE: The Limits of Possible Explanation
(March 12, 2009 at 4:14 pm)Sam Wrote: I appreciate your position, but see it as wild speculation. The main assumption here is that an explanation of the relationships between all things (i.e. a unif... |
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March 12, 2009 at 4:44 pm |
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Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: RE: The Limits of Possible Explanation
(March 12, 2009 at 11:55 am)Sam Wrote: Interesting points raised here Mark,
I think the problem comes from your reasoning, i.e. My house is red because I had it painted etc ... In my opinion this s... |
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March 12, 2009 at 1:37 pm |
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Thread: Existence of Jesus
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I didn't see this, sorry.
(March 12, 2009 at 9:33 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: (March 12, 2009 at 8:40 am)Mark Wrote: Well actually if you read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus , you ... |
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March 12, 2009 at 12:51 pm |
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Thread: Existence of Jesus
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(March 12, 2009 at 11:17 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: (March 12, 2009 at 10:39 am)Mark Wrote: You really should read the wikipedia reference that I supplied above, before you accept chatpilot's sweeping ... |
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March 12, 2009 at 11:19 am |
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Thread: Existence of Jesus
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(March 12, 2009 at 10:13 am)chatpilot Wrote: Most of these arguments regarding the secular evidence of the existence of Jesus such as Josephus etc. Have been proven to be inserted at a later time an... |
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March 12, 2009 at 10:39 am |
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Thread: Existence of Jesus
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(March 12, 2009 at 9:33 am)Giff Wrote: Make sence what you say there. But if he was an importent person for those who believed in him during that time. Then there atleast should some evidence left.
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March 12, 2009 at 10:31 am |
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Thread: The Limits of Possible Explanation
Post: The Limits of Possible Explanation
I argue here that there can be no explanation of the set of all things that exist, considered as a totality. This point is important, since religious believers often advance the proposition that a go... |
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March 12, 2009 at 10:17 am |
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Thread: Existence of Jesus
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(March 11, 2009 at 6:08 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: (March 11, 2009 at 2:03 pm)Mark Wrote: Also Jesus was mentioned by the classical historian Josephus, who was not a Christian. It is not impossible of... |
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March 12, 2009 at 8:40 am |
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Thread: Existence of Jesus
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(March 11, 2009 at 9:56 am)chatpilot Wrote: It is pretty hard to crucify someone who did not exist.As a matter of fact crucicixion was the popular method of execution by the Romans,so this was not e... |
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March 11, 2009 at 2:03 pm |
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Thread: Evidence that God exists
Post: RE: Evidence that God exists
I apologize to all, but it is necessary for me to quote so as to keep clear what argument applies to what previous discussion.
(March 10, 2009 at 7:08 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (March 10, 2009 at 11:35 am)... |
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