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    Thread: Childhood indoctrination
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(July 29, 2013 at 10:55 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: (July 29, 2013 at 9:54 am)Forbinator Wrote: I would take insulin, of course: http://www.vivisectioninformation.com/in...nd-Insulin anti-vivisecti...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 July 30, 2013 at 12:21 am
    Thread: Childhood indoctrination
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(July 29, 2013 at 8:27 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Animals are similar, genetically at least (depending on the animal, naturally) and are used thanks to that genetic similarity without having to test...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 July 29, 2013 at 9:54 am
    Thread: Childhood indoctrination
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Here is a very well referenced article about the environmental damage done by animal agriculture: http://terrastendo.net/2013/07/26/do-the...many-cows/ Basically, the people who called me an environm...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 July 28, 2013 at 11:48 am
    Thread: Childhood indoctrination
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I just thought I should make it clear that it is important for vegans to take a vitamin B12 supplement. Many people use this as an argument against veganism, but this article contains an excellent exp...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 22, 2013 at 11:51 pm
    Thread: Childhood indoctrination
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(June 17, 2013 at 8:15 am)festive1 Wrote: That may be the longest post ever. I skimmed, but you lost me when you seemingly equate the practice of infanticide with eating animals... People practice/...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 17, 2013 at 8:41 am
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(June 13, 2013 at 8:45 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Forbi Wrote:I suppose the occasions where "livestock are capable of processing commodities which we are not" depends mostly on the soil type in a given ...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 17, 2013 at 5:41 am
    Thread: Childhood indoctrination
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(June 16, 2013 at 10:44 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: (June 16, 2013 at 5:54 pm)Forbinator Wrote: He also says that two thirds of cattle in Australia are fed solely on pasture, but then cites this link: ...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 17, 2013 at 3:57 am
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(June 13, 2013 at 8:45 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: While this is from 2011, I offer it to 'round out' and inform those who would like to take the romantic.... "saving the planet for our children" .... p...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 16, 2013 at 5:54 pm
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(June 7, 2013 at 9:17 am)Rhythm Wrote: (June 7, 2013 at 2:32 am)Forbinator Wrote: Thanks for your post. I guess as long as we have a monetary system, humanity is screwed? That sounds about right, ...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 10, 2013 at 10:24 am
    Thread: Childhood indoctrination
Post: RE: Childhood indoctrination
I'll respond to other points later, but I thought I should add some balance to comparison above (with sample size of one per group!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TR8FyZ75l4
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 8, 2013 at 2:35 am
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(June 4, 2013 at 8:40 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: (June 4, 2013 at 8:30 am)Forbinator Wrote: Hmm...let's suppose hypothetically that animal faeces actually is necessary to grow crops (despite the exi...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 7, 2013 at 2:32 am
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(June 4, 2013 at 8:31 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: The same question can be asked "why do you think you deserve to eat plant material?"You seem to just want to keep playing this game. Are there any square...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 4, 2013 at 9:23 am
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(June 4, 2013 at 7:00 am)Aractus Wrote: Whoopty-Fucking-Doo. That's mulesing. Yeah it aint that pretty, and yes it causes the sheep some short-term temporary pain. Get over it. If it's a choice betw...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 4, 2013 at 8:42 am
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(June 4, 2013 at 7:43 am)Aractus Wrote: (June 4, 2013 at 7:35 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: Now that someone posted something with maggots. How do you 2 feel about the use of insects by human...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 4, 2013 at 8:36 am
    Thread: Childhood indoctrination
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Hmm...let's suppose hypothetically that animal faeces actually is necessary to grow crops (despite the existence of synthetic fertilisers). How does producing fertiliser mean that the animals deserve ...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 4, 2013 at 8:30 am
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As I said, if you don't agree with those four points, then I have no hope of convincing you of an ethical position. I guess you don't call the police if any of the first three things happens to you or...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 4, 2013 at 4:42 am
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(June 4, 2013 at 12:21 am)Rhythm Wrote: We'll need to do quite a bit more than simply use land efficiently. The land that's used to feed animals allows us to turn a commodity that is not nutritiona...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 4, 2013 at 2:07 am
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(June 3, 2013 at 10:58 am)little_monkey Wrote: I'm still waiting Forbinator to define what he means by ethical. I guess not only The Germans are coming is at fault here.I thought I'd already made my...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 3, 2013 at 11:52 pm
    Thread: Childhood indoctrination
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(June 3, 2013 at 9:57 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: (June 3, 2013 at 9:48 am)Forbinator Wrote: Animals with brains have hormonally-driven survival instincts (adrenaline, cortisol etc.), but plants do not...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 3, 2013 at 10:42 am
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(June 3, 2013 at 7:37 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: You stated I was a biggot for calling other species infirior, I pointed out that this way every species eating another species was biggoted. An...
 Forbinator Philosophy 370 131610 June 3, 2013 at 10:21 am