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    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Thanks for everyone's responses so far. One thing I would like to say is that I don't think this debate should go into how to turn round the question onto theists which it seems to be starting to (wh...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 29, 2014 at 6:09 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
(November 28, 2014 at 7:42 pm)Exian Wrote: And why do some people choose to do those things? Is the feeling of guilt not the answer you're looking for? Yes the feeling of guilt may be the reason. Wh...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 7:53 pm
    Thread: What's your favorite swear word/insult?
Post: RE: What's your favorite swear word/insult?
Mine has always been pooface or poohead. I think it's funnier now I'm an adult calling it to other adults too!
 vincent150 Off Topic 245 31412 November 28, 2014 at 7:44 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
(November 28, 2014 at 7:21 pm)Ben Davis Wrote: (November 28, 2014 at 12:48 pm)vincent150 Wrote: What I am asking here is why an atheist 'should' be moral.Because I don't live in isolation. I assum...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 7:33 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
(November 28, 2014 at 6:09 pm)Exian Wrote: I might be way off base here, but I see a parallel with "even though we evolved to be social, moral creatures, we 'should' be able to override that special...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 7:11 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
(November 28, 2014 at 2:41 pm)abaris Wrote: (November 28, 2014 at 2:39 pm)vincent150 Wrote: A theist will ask why 'should' you care about people if you don't believe there's a god. This is the que...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 2:44 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
(November 28, 2014 at 2:22 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Do you care about people at all? If so, there's your answer. If not... well, you've already baselessly locked us out of using pragmatic concerns, so... ...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 2:39 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
(November 28, 2014 at 2:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote: For the third time, boxes and bricks Vincent. I think what may be happening here, is that you're conflating two different issues. One, why something i...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 2:28 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
(November 28, 2014 at 1:55 pm)robvalue Wrote: There is no independent reason to be moral, as a neutral universe doesn't care about us, our actions or what may be "good" or "bad". From a human's pe...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 2:15 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
(November 28, 2014 at 1:52 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Some would say that this answers the question quite handily. If you accept that it;s okay to steal, you;ve accepted that it's okay to be stolen from. Thi...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 2:02 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
(November 28, 2014 at 1:46 pm)Esquilax Wrote: You can't just expect everyone else to sign that agreement while you go "but I'm the exception." This is exactly what I'm asking, why should someone not...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 1:53 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
(November 28, 2014 at 1:30 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (November 28, 2014 at 1:27 pm)vincent150 Wrote: However, I can make my life better if I do it. The question is why 'should' I not steal it?Can you, real...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 1:42 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
(November 28, 2014 at 1:22 pm)Rhythm Wrote: If those things aren't enough to dissuade you, so be it (and clearly for some they aren't)...but at least we know where we stand in relation. I don;t thi...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 1:36 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
(November 28, 2014 at 1:20 pm)Exian Wrote: Morality is a quality of being social creatures, which is the way our evolutionary cookie crumbled. Morality is beneficial to the survival of the individua...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 1:27 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
(November 28, 2014 at 1:13 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Um, doesn't life work out better if we all get along and don't murder each other? Isn't your chance for survival and prosperity improved when you are A:...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 1:20 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
(November 28, 2014 at 1:03 pm)Chad32 Wrote: For the same reason anyone should be moral. Because it will lead to a better life within the community. We're a social species, and those of us that get a...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 1:13 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
One of my points is though, when a religious person asks this question atheists immediately turn the question onto them which is not what I want this debate to be. You say why 'would' you want to mur...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 1:09 pm
    Thread: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
Post: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
What I am asking here is why an atheist 'should' be moral. I'm not asking 'if' atheists are moral or whether an atheist 'can be' moral which is normally the question that seems to get answered. For t...
 vincent150 Philosophy 119 21779 November 28, 2014 at 12:48 pm