(October 20, 2015 at 10:19 am)JBrentonK Wrote:(October 20, 2015 at 10:07 am)Crossless1 Wrote: Atheism "created" in the 20th Century? So you know jack shit about western intellectual history. What a surprise.
Well if I'm not mistaken the intellectual revolution started in the 17th century with Voltaire and the enlightenment. They also started discussing God then unless I'm wrong. But there was not ever an "atheism" before that as far as I know. Christopher Colombus discovered America, but he also wrote about God. No, I have a good understanding about intellectual history, but I can bet you don't.
Either way, there has not been too much of intellectual history. Not long ago was the enlightenment, which was really the first proclamation of faith. Don't forget, America was only discovered in 1500 (500 years ago). And so as far as I am aware, there has not been any establishing of the faith, much less that of the establishment of a false religion (atheism). I would believe due to the God of established society, and his not playing a large role in civilization as we know it, atheism would have not been created during these times. And only came along the Kooks near the 19th century. So it only makes sense to me that the word was created, in the least, sometime new, and that it makes little difference to the involvement of the christian community.
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(October 20, 2015 at 10:29 am)JBrentonK Wrote: I_am_not_mafia: you are just butt hurt because people do not believe in god. Well wake the fuck up it's 2015 the bible is 2 thousand years old for fucks sake we have the LHC looking at small particles of elementary matter, we have been to space we have fucking satellites were going to fucking colonize mother fucking mars now where the fuck is god? Seriously christianity two thousand years and nothing to fucking show for it's self not even 1 credible piece of evidence for a god and not even 1 credible piece for a guy named jesus. I respect you but your belief is fucking stupid.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today.
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(October 20, 2015 at 10:44 am)Losty Wrote:Personal foul. Fifteen yards. Trump is never justifiable.(October 20, 2015 at 10:03 am)JBrentonK Wrote: I was only asking if atheism is a new thing, created in the 1900's or so. I believe it is, and if we discover it was, then atheists cannot claim anything about being irreligious. In fact they will only be able to claim that they are directly acting out against God, for purely evil or ill-will'd intentions. RE: Proof for being an atheist
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(October 20, 2015 at 10:29 am)JBrentonK Wrote: That is entirely untrue. By you acting as an atheist in the first place all of your actions are the non proof of Gods existence. Sorry you've got your logic the wrong way round using your reasoning. Your sentence should be: "By you acting as an atheist in the first place all of your actions are the non proof of Gods non existence." A theist believes in God. They act as if God exists therefore they prove God's existance. Taking the direct opposite of this is a gnostic atheist. 'A gnostic atheist believes that God does not exist. They act as if God does not exist and therefore prove God does not exist.' Now we have a distinction between agnostic and gnostic theist. If you're referring to the agnostic atheists then we have: 'An agnostic atheist has no belief in God. They do not act as if God exists and therefore there is no proof of God' Either way there's either no proof of God or proof that God does not exist. Now how can all these contradictory proofs exist at once? Quantum Mechanics! The fall back of all woo-ists. What we have is Schroedinger's God. The god simultaneously exists and does not exist until you measure it. But as there is no physical way of measuring a god then it can never properly exist and will be in a perpetual state of non-stateness. (October 20, 2015 at 10:29 am)JBrentonK Wrote: Or in other words when you act as an atheist you're acting as a complete idiot, totally irrational and blind to the truth. I think someone is a little grumpy and needs a hug because they've been proved wrong with their own word salad. (October 20, 2015 at 10:19 am)JBrentonK Wrote:(October 20, 2015 at 10:07 am)Crossless1 Wrote: Atheism "created" in the 20th Century? So you know jack shit about western intellectual history. What a surprise. The Greek roots? The Roman tradition of calling peeps atheos for not supporting the official gods? That's all news to you? You're a special kind of fruitcake, you know that?
Well even that awful book of yours seems to indicate that atheists have existed for a very long time, in that pathetic line from psalms that is trotted out by rote at us so frequently that it pains me to quote it:
"The fool has said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that does good. |
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