Islam true religion?

[Anomalocaris]

Your holy book insult itself. We do nothing more than point that out to you.

[Zakir_250]

And superman could leap tall buildings with a single bound.....and he's about as real as fucking mohammed.

He's more moral and much more entertaining than mohammad.

Um Gandhi spoke good things about Muhammad (Peace be upon him). Also he (peace be upon him) was named number one most influential in history.

[reverendjeremiah]

No, Koran is backed by Koran, as superman comics are backed by superman comics.

Umm no. I just posted evidence to why the Moon was split by Muhammad (S.A.W) but no one actually refuted it. Instead they insulted me and my prophet.

Sadly, comics are not backed by any evidence.

The moon was split?

LMFAO!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!



Did green cream cheese ooze out of it?

[Whateverist]

So far all the evidence I've read from you is of the sort prophet so-and-so has said it and why would he lie when he is such a fine and learned man? Expert witnesses? That's the best you can do? Why not just admit that you believe the Koran because you want to and you like the company of the other people who believe it with you? Your satisfaction with your personal choices doesn't seem to be winning any converts.

[reverendjeremiah]

And superman could leap tall buildings with a single bound.....and he's about as real as fucking mohammed.

He's more moral and much more entertaining than mohammad.

Um Gandhi spoke good things about Muhammad (Peace be upon him). Also he (peace be upon him) was named number one most influential in history.

The difference is, we can PROVE that Ghandi existed. You cant prove your warlord pedophile existed.

P.S. - if you are talking to the world, it tends to make more sense to kiss religious peoples asses to help sway them to your point of view.

Just imagine Ghandi saying "Mohammad was a pedophile...now join me in my quest for peace!"

Yeah...you got dupped...lol. Ghandi WANTED religion to spread, which is a big thing I disagree with on him.

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HADITH

In addition, the hadith collections are accounts of the verbal and physical traditions of Muhammad that date from several generations after his death.[34] Hadith compilations are records of the traditions or sayings of Muhammad. They might be defined as the biography of Muhammad perpetuated by the long memory of his community for their exemplification and obedience.[35]

Several generations AFTER his death? Hadith is actually WORSE to use as proof of Muhammad actually existing than the gospels are for Jesus. At least the for gospels were written a fe DECADES after the death of Jesus (which still doesnt look good.) These books (the hadith) are clearly nothing to do with Muhammad and everything to do with later warlords using the name just to manipulate

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They rely HEAVILY on oral traditions..slippery slope...now all of the oral traditions of the FSM are just as "historical" as the hadith

[genkaus]

The exact same thing can be said. How do you know he lied? Did anyone say he was lying?

He was lying because what he said was not consistent with reality. That is the definition of a lie. Whether he was aware of the lie or not is irrelevant.

Do You see how logic works?

Let me teach you a little about logic.

Muhammad wasn't telling lies because he was trustworthy

Someone who is trustworthy can still lie.

and even his enemies trusted him.

It is quite possible to trust a liar.

Why would a innocent man lie about an angel? for fame? for power? for money?

See? You yourself can come up with some pretty good reasons for the lies.

Well according to the authentic hadiths, he rejected power and money.

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And he got fame. One out of three ain't bad. Maybe that's what he wanted - to be famous.

He was a very nice man.

Liars can be nice people too.

This is why he is called to mankind.

What does this even mean?

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There is evidence for superman too. I bet there are at least as many copies of books outlining the various acts of supermen as there are copies of the Koran.

Once agian, the difference is that Quran is backed by evidence. Myths like Superman is for kids.

What evidence? You haven't given any apart from a few unverifiable stories.

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No, Koran is backed by Koran, as superman comics are backed by superman comics.

Umm no. I just posted evidence to why the Moon was split by Muhammad (S.A.W) but no one actually refuted it. Instead they insulted me and my prophet.

Sadly, comics are not backed by any evidence.

I refuted the evidence twice or thrice. I'm yet to see any rebuttal.

[downbeatplumb]

Heres a film of superman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmK_cRPPE...re=related

Can you even show us a picture of mohammed?

[5thHorseman]

Which merely demonstrates, Fifth, exactly how stupid religious assholes can be.

But sometimes you just have to laugh at the arrogance when they say, but Mohamed is the true prophet, or Jesus is the true savior.

I laugh at the arrogance, it never gets boring or old.

[reverendjeremiah]

Can you even show us a picture of mohammed?

He would...if not for his religion demanding that he doesnt do such a thing..

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Which merely demonstrates, Fifth, exactly how stupid religious assholes can be.

But sometimes you just have to laugh at the arrogance when they say, but Mohamed is the true prophet, or Jesus is the true savior.

I laugh at the arrogance, it never gets boring or old.

Some people even do it with politicians as well, sort of like the Ron Paul fever that has taken this board over here lately.

Ron Paul OBVIOUSLY will be different from the others...LOL

[Doubting Thomas]

Huh? Here have a look at this link. http://www.theinimitablequran.com/fivema...ments.html

Basically that says that since the Koran was written so well, it means that it has to have been written by God. Not very convincing.

The Quran is a miracle. Every Surah is a proof of the Quran being true.

Now we have circular logic.

But why are Scientists embracing Islam?

Appeal to authority.

Our Prophet would never suddenly make something up. He was an honest man who would never lie about the Angel Jibrail.

"The authors of the bible wouldn't have just made it all up!" Really, nothing new here.

Are you saying the 1.8 billion people are wrong?

Now argument from numbers. There are 2.1 billion Christians, so that must mean your 1.8 billion Muslims are wrong.

The only thing you've convinced me of is that Muslims are no more able to prove their religion true than Christians are, or any member of any other religions, for that matter.

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Ron Paul OBVIOUSLY will be different from the others...LOL

Yeah, he'll fade back into obscurity without becoming a Fox News correspondent.