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The 244 Accomplishments of President Obama
17th December 2011, 03:59
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RE: The 244 Accomplishments of President Obama
(16th December 2011 22:33)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote:  I believe I've heard that they've added language that would allow for being exempt from this rule if you're an American citizen.

You're fucking wrong, DOA. The military detention bill allows for anyone within a declared war zone to be detained indefinitely, citizen or not (caveat: that is, if a war zone is declared domestically. Non-citizens everywhere though are shafted).

It's the motherfucking section 1031. (Funny enough, if a citizen is captured abroad, THEN the "exemption" applies)

Read about it from a real lawyer:
http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/12/the-n...detention/

The Volokh Conspiracy has a write up using the above:
http://volokh.com/2011/12/07/us-citizen-...n-in-ndaa/

The amendment to correct that failed to take hold.

The fucking fascists finally did it; and our fucking president rolled over and took it.

National Defense Authorization Act aka Enabling Act 2.0 is online.

Fuck you Mr. Obama.

If an asteroid were to land on you tomorrow, I would rejoice.

Because I have no more patience for supposed "allies" who really turn out to stab you in the back.

And you, shit sir, have stabbed me and your core constituents in the back.

We'll vote for you, perhaps, but the second we find a better deal, you're out on the curb with the garbage.
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17th December 2011, 04:52
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RE: The 244 Accomplishments of President Obama
(17th December 2011 03:59)Moros Synackaon Wrote:  You're fucking wrong, DOA.
Indeed I was.

(17th December 2011 03:59)Moros Synackaon Wrote:  The amendment to correct that failed to take hold.
Aha. The article I read must have stated that the article was proposed, but I must have assumed that it was already amended. I didn't realize that it failed.

(17th December 2011 03:59)Moros Synackaon Wrote:  The fucking fascists finally did it; and our fucking president rolled over and took it.
Ah - but there's a misconception here. He didn't "roll over and take it" he said "Give me the goddamn pen." and then "Why is signing this bill with a pen into law so slow?"
The only reason he wanted to veto the bill was because it didnt' give the executive branch ENOUGH POWER.

Well, Brits and Aussies, it was nice knowing you, but it seems like our government is ready to go full Stalin-era Soviet Russia on us here shortly between the censorship and secret police.
Soon, we'll be cut off from the internet places they don't approve of or some of us will be taken away and never heard from again.

(17th December 2011 03:59)Moros Synackaon Wrote:  Fuck you Mr. Obama.

If an asteroid were to land on you tomorrow, I would rejoice.

Because I have no more patience for supposed "allies" who really turn out to stab you in the back.

And you, shit sir, have stabbed me and your core constituents in the back.

We'll vote for you, perhaps, but the second we find a better deal, you're out on the curb with the garbage.

I think it says something when our freedom of democracy is basically between the guy who plunges America into soviet-style fascism or literally any of the republicans and we choose the guy who is signing in a law that eliminates one of our most sacred constitutional rights - that of our right to a trial and he's the best option.

Honestly - why is no one stopping this from happening?
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