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Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 11:47 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: It would seem that like this newcommer is yet to understand that he is on an atheist forum where the majority of posters WILL attack his arguments??

Big baby.

Response: It appears that you couldn't eve address the OP, for fear of being exposed of your flawed logic.

Deluded Atheist.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 11:46 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: To the contrary, it is me, because unlike the other theists, I can utterly expose and debunk your arguments. So they don't face persecutuin because they don't exose you like I do. Reasonable people also decide to ignore a poster if they are irrational. So it's not just me, because you, like everyone else, continue to respond. So what does that make you?
Umm...you don't debunk anything. In fact, you are a considerably weaker debater than the other theists around here. You are such a weak debater that what you are posting doesn't even qualify as debate. If we stopped responding, you would just claim victory. You aren't the first to do this, nor will you be the last.

(December 9, 2012 at 11:50 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: It appears that you couldn't eve address the OP, for fear of being exposed of your flawed logic.

Deluded Atheist.

We did address the OP, you just swept it under the rug.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 11:50 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Umm...you don't debunk anything. In fact, you are a considerably weaker debater than the other theists around here. You are such a weak debater that what you are posting doesn't even qualify as debate. If we stopped responding, you would just claim victory. You aren't the first to do this, nor will you be the last.

(December 9, 2012 at 11:50 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: It appears that you couldn't eve address the OP, for fear of being exposed of your flawed logic.

Deluded Atheist.

We did address the OP, you just swept it under the rug.

Response: Yet the fact that everything you've posted has been completely dismantled with the slightest of eaze on the thread proves otherwise. There's a reason why the thread is by far the most popular. Because I'm able to get everyone's attention by utterly debunking you and others. A flawed debater doesn't draw this much attention. Only the best do. Debunked as usual.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
The reason people click on this thread is because you posted freakin' lines like these;

Quote:Response: When you can provide evidence of harm done in having consensul sex in marriage with a 9 year old who has reached maturity and and puberty, other than because mommy says so, then you will have a point.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
Everyone loves a train wreck, Ali. This one's a doozy.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
Well I guess I could at least read your first post.

(December 9, 2012 at 12:19 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Through my comparative study, I've noticed that of all religious people within history, none shares as big of a difference in point of view in character and merit amongst people than Muhammad.

Have you writen this study down?

Can you give examples?

Quote:While muslims see Muhammad as the prophet of islam, a honest, decent, loving messenger of God, and the greatest example for humanity on the best way to live,

This is a view, which doesn`t fit into modern democracy.
We do not orientate our laws on some idealised perfect being.
But on their effectifness and on the ethical arguments against and for those.

Morality is something relative.

Quote:many non-muslims see Muhammad as not only a false prophet, but attribute some of the most degrading and immoral characteristics and behavior to Muhammad. Such a completely different view of muslims.

Contradiction: If a non Muslim doesn`t see muhammad as a false prophet - then he`s a muslim and not a non-muslim because he sees muhammed as a real prophet.

Do you have studies and statistics which prove that claim of yours?


Quote:I've analyzed the the qur'an and sunnah of Muhammad thoroughly and have seen nothing of the point of view that non-muslims share which makes me ask the question, "where do these differences come from?" Is Muhammad the greatest example of the best way to conduct ourselves? Let's have a discussion.

No because today we are no longer desert tribes fighting over regional disputes and many point of the koran such as the choping of of hands and the death penalty, aswell as the punishment for apostecy, and it`s antisemitism are outdated and inmoral within our modern pluralistic sociaty.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 11:47 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: It would seem that like this newcommer is yet to understand that he is on an atheist forum where the majority of posters WILL attack his arguments??

Big baby.

He does seem to be a couple of cans short of a six-pack, Kichi
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 11:55 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: Yet the fact that everything you've posted has been completely dismantled with the slightest of eaze on the thread proves otherwise.
...not worth a response...

(December 9, 2012 at 11:55 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: There's a reason why the thread is by far the most popular.
It is?

(December 9, 2012 at 11:55 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Because I'm able to get everyone's attention by utterly debunking you and others. A flawed debater doesn't draw this much attention. Only the best do. Debunked as usual.

Nah, it's more like this:

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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 11:58 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: Well I guess I could at least read your first post.

(December 9, 2012 at 12:19 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Through my comparative study, I've noticed that of all religious people within history, none shares as big of a difference in point of view in character and merit amongst people than Muhammad.

Have you writen this study down?

Can you give examples?

Quote:While muslims see Muhammad as the prophet of islam, a honest, decent, loving messenger of God, and the greatest example for humanity on the best way to live,

This is a view, which doesn`t fit into modern democracy.
We do not orientate our laws on some idealised perfect being.
But on their effectifness and on the ethical arguments against and for those.

Morality is something relative.

Quote:many non-muslims see Muhammad as not only a false prophet, but attribute some of the most degrading and immoral characteristics and behavior to Muhammad. Such a completely different view of muslims.

Contradiction: If a non Muslim doesn`t see muhammad as a false prophet - then he`s a muslim and not a non-muslim because he sees muhammed as a real prophet.

Do you have studies and statistics which prove that claim of yours?


Quote:I've analyzed the the qur'an and sunnah of Muhammad thoroughly and have seen nothing of the point of view that non-muslims share which makes me ask the question, "where do these differences come from?" Is Muhammad the greatest example of the best way to conduct ourselves? Let's have a discussion.

No because today we are no longer desert tribes fighting over regional disputes and many point of the koran such as the choping of of hands and the death penalty, aswell as the punishment for apostecy, and it`s antisemitism are outdated and inmoral within our modern pluralistic sociaty.

Response: Islam is suitable for all times. There is no law in islam that is not best in establishing peace.

(December 10, 2012 at 12:00 am)Darkstar Wrote:
(December 9, 2012 at 11:55 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: Yet the fact that everything you've posted has been completely dismantled with the slightest of eaze on the thread proves otherwise.
...not worth a response...

(December 9, 2012 at 11:55 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: There's a reason why the thread is by far the most popular.
It is?

(December 9, 2012 at 11:55 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Because I'm able to get everyone's attention by utterly debunking you and others. A flawed debater doesn't draw this much attention. Only the best do. Debunked as usual.

Nah, it's more like this:


Response: Only in the eyes of the delusional. Thanks for clarifying.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
The delusional?

Again;

Quote:Response: When you can provide evidence of harm done in having consensul sex in marriage with a 9 year old who has reached maturity and and puberty, other than because mommy says so, then you will have a point.
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