(July 27, 2015 at 3:20 am)robvalue Wrote: I've read through the whole of this thread (and the others on this subject) and I've not been convinced of one tiny valid objection. Even the reasons we had posted from one of the high court judges in opposition read like a logical fallacy wish list.
These are all ways of tiptoeing around the fact that they hate gays and want them to be treated worse. At some points the tiptoeing stops, the facade is dropped and the agenda is revealed. Once this is apparent, it's clear their objections are nothing to do with gay marriage. It's to do with them wanting gays to be treated worse because they are worse, in their eyes.
Hmm but this is not even logical or reasonable, because from such ideology, repository of hatred is easily born. Because I do not agree with something I am full suddenly full of hatred that I wish them all to be mistreated severely? However, I do not agree with many things that unknown and known people do.
I do not agree with a friend of mine having an affair and leaving her 6 kids to be looked at by some stranger so she can go and have “fun”. (I would say that I do hate this action yet, do not wish evil to befall on her). I do not agree that my sister is working at a job that is paying her practically nothing. I dislike it when my brother is very lazy, or that my mother can be very stubborn.
However, to say that I hate them all as human being and want nothing more their mistreatment to be as filth as on can be.
This far from my true feelings! . . . Well, maybe my bro at times when he is being an ass , but 99.999% of the time, no.
I do not think that when my parents disagree with my thoughts or actions that the stopped loving me and wish to disown me.
To oppose is not to agree with something, nothing more. Not because of hate, god, money, that it is sunny out side, or because my dog has licked himself 3 times today. (However, I am not so blind to know that their are those who truly do hate and wish others death). Nevertheless, to say that all who disagree are all the same is both a stereotypical generalizing of bigotry on your part.
Can I not say that you are also full of hatred against those who oppose you? That all you want to do is demand that they accept your ideology completely. We who oppose need to “evolve” our mindset and be more “accepting,” if refusal continues; “they” should simply be annihilate from this world. (I have read many on this thread who have advocated such act to carried out on all who opposes.)
I ask you what those who are in the homosexual community that are also against the idea of same sex marriage, are they bigots that wish to see their own kind, which includes themselves, be treated less the human or are they just so full of hate?