Supreme Court Same Sex Marriage Argumet

[Anima]

Homos are born that way and cannot change.  So be it.  So are murders, pedophiles, necrophiles, abusers, psychos, sociopaths, and so on.  Just because they are born a specific way does not mean society or the state needs to be accepting of those actions.

You're making a rather odd comparison here, the behavior we punish murders, pedophiles, necrophiliacs (I'm thinking about the mourners here), abusers, psychos, and sociopaths for injures other people and it's that behavior that we punish.  The behavior of homosexuals does not (except perhaps your sense of propriety and taboo).

In this regard you would be correct under they are not hurting anyone. But as I have argued throughout this thread the determination of harm is to be objective and not subjective. In this regard I presented the argument #1 in accordance with biology to show the orientation leads to action with a particular result that is harmful and a universal result which is also harmful. This is to say they result in an objective harm biologically speaking.

Now if one wishes to argue a subjective determination (which I would not advise) we have also provided this argument in terms of physical and metaphysical harm. Neither of these arguments have been refuted and are logically sound. The best response as of yet is the harm should be tolerated, without really giving a reason why.

Furthermore the argument to not hurting anyone is predicated on an argument to ignorance. I am sure we are all aware of anecdotal evidence of their harm to others. Even when they "come out" to their parents. Do we think those are tears of joy or anger of happiness? No. They are physical manifestation of a metaphysical harm. This is where special pleading comes in by which it is argued to deny them the right to express is a metaphysical harm that should be avoided while the metaphysical harm of their expression is just ignored or written off as bigots suffering because of their bigotry (an ad hominem attack). So we know their orientation results in a subjective harm and thus we are compelled to move to the objective determination in order to avoid special pleading.