(August 18, 2015 at 8:59 am)alpha male Wrote:(August 14, 2015 at 4:58 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: Why do religionists refuse to condemn slavery?Plenty of "religionists" do condemn slavery.
Quote:I hate arguments like "it was normal back then", "everyone else was doing it" or "so-and-so put rules in place to make sure slaves were well treated". Why can't they just admit the author(s) of their religious text(s) were influenced by moral relativism?Jesus noted that OT law on divorce was not an ideal, but rather a practical concession. Why can't Christians therefore argue the same regarding slavery?
Matt 19
3 The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?”
4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made[a] them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”
7 They said to Him, “Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?”
8 He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”
Nice argument...it'd be a shame if something were to...HAPPEN to it...
Sooo...was the hardness of their hearts also the reason Gaud drew the line at knocking out eyes and teeth? You realize they could beat their slaves pretty much to death and get away with it as long as it took a day or two for them to die, right? And if he legalized divorce and slave-beating because it was a "practical concession," why didn't he give practical concessions for non-violent activities that occur between consenting, naked adults? Why do those people get killed with rocks?
It almost seems as if the biblical laws were written by a bunch of intensely patriarchal men who owned slaves...hmmm...
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
