(August 24, 2015 at 5:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote:OK, you gave me two physical examples and I agree, these small beginnings evolved into practical end points. This is not a physical example (or it doesn't appear so to me). So, educate me. What do you see/imagine an agreed definition evolving into? Or is it until we come to the definition we'll never know and therefore the debate is justified?Quote:It is the thing itself that permits and guides discovery of the thing, so how can we know when it is that we've understood it as itself?No more (or less) a problem for consciousness than it is for gravity, or even the thoughts you just expressed.
The greeks saw little benefit in steam engines, they used them as toys Brewer. The chinese failed to recognize the full utility of gunpowder...
Don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing the debate. Because I didn't understand I wasn't sure I wanted to partake.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
