RE: Supreme Court Same Sex Marriage Argumet
August 25, 2015 at 5:21 pm
(This post was last modified: August 25, 2015 at 5:31 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 25, 2015 at 3:54 pm)Anima Wrote: Well as a native american I am a protected class which happens to have black hair.Uh oh, too bad, you're different than me, so I guess I don;t have to automatically grant you equality. Tough luck, back a tha bus.
Quote:Up until about 50 years ago my people were treated as property of the government of the united states and were not permitted to work or live outside of the reservation or military bases. We have not been treated equally historically and are not treated equally to this day (reservations do not have to obey state laws, but are bound by federal laws. Reservations are not permitted to engage in international trader or have international boarders. Reservations are not permitted to establish exclusive trade deals among one another, to educated their own children, etcetera). Also, unlike some groups we were actually slaughtered, infected, enslaved, imprisoned, and forced into effectual internment camps (reservations), and given enrollment numbers were the majority of us remain to this day. So I am a little familiar with preferential and discriminatory treatment.Not sure why any of that is a problem, after all....."states interests" etc, and you're a different thing than me anyway.
Quote:Needless to say when I hear arguments of false equivalency I recognize them to be exactly that...FALSE!-and black haired native americans should not be treated like me, superior/inferior and all of that.......I mean..honestly, I see no reason to argue with you on any of these grounds...........I don't need to tell you which one of us is the inferior, the little history lesson above demonstrates that plainly enough...and you won't be quibbling on that count.....right? I think it's cute, though, that in a discussion of equality and gay marriage, you actually chose to use the terms superior and inferior. You rock my world sweetheart, lol.
Now in regards to your questions about false equivalency I am indeed fine with excluding groups based on particular qualities. The infantile should not be treated as the senile; the virtuous should not be treated the same as the vicious; the disabled should not be treated as the abled. To do endeavor to do so denigrates the superior and denies the inferior; when we should encourage the former and discourage the latter.
Quote:It is at this point where discussion then begins in order to determine the qualities of various groups and the civic duties and privileges they should be allowed to exercise.Well, maybe for you it does, not so much for me - I'm all set up...right shade of lipstick, proper orientation, deeply entrenched in both civic duty and privilege....you're the inferior excluder, that's your baby. Continue?
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