(August 31, 2015 at 8:43 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(August 31, 2015 at 8:32 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: There are differing conceptions of hell, just as there are differing conceptions of heaven, and god.
I know yours is a benign conception, but quite frankly, that ain't what I've read in the Bible. Yes, I know, you're not sola scriptura but at some point, when do you actually own what the Bible says?
Very nice cherry-picking, it looks like from here. You dodge the parts about a "lake of fire" and so on. I'm unimpressed.
Yes, and the Evangelicals and fundamentalist Christians feel the same way about us Catholics as you do lol. They feel we cherry pick from the bible.
Truth is the Church existed before the bible did, and Jesus left the "keys to the Kingdom of Heaven" with Peter, the first pope of the Church. No mention of any books.
Not that the bible isn't important and insightful and inspired, but it has it's place, and it is not the main pillar of Truth.
But I get it. If I was following the bible word for word, I'd be receiving criticism just the same. Damned if I do, damned if I don't.
We're cool though, PT, you know I love ya. I hope our recent debates haven't made you think I have changed my opinion of you.
Nor mine of you, CL. But given your thoughtfulness, I feel it's only right that you should have the hard questions put to you plainly.
How do you decide which parts of the Bible guide you, and which part you can safely disregard? And why is your valuation of those parts be they literal, allegorical, and failed, truer than that of a Protestant, for instance? Aside from raw faith, of course.