Lol, ok. So I know how this looks.
Let me first say that I'm definitely against it. And that I am NOT equating this to gay marriage or anything like that. This is a completely independent issue.
I am curious to know though, what is the secular argument for why beastiality acts should be illegal? I know you will all say that animals can't give consent, but if you're doing it in such a way that is not hurting them physically, mentally, or emotionally, and if they don't understand sex or what is going on, then why would we need their consent for it? We don't need their consent to do anything else to them as long as we're not hurting them. So why should sex acts be any different if sex can be purely a physical thing and nothing more, as I'm assuming most of you believe? Let's say someone puts peanut butter or something on their own private parts, for example. Why should that be illegal if the animal is just licking peanut butter and isn't being hurt in any way?
Along with the fact that it's just completely ew, my core reason for thinking it's immoral go together with my religious beliefs regarding sexual morality, so I'd like to hear the reasons from someone who is not motivated by religious beliefs.
Throughout this thread, I will be playing devil's advocate, and I'm sure it'll get gross and taboo. But make no mistake, I do not support these acts in any way shape or form.
Let me first say that I'm definitely against it. And that I am NOT equating this to gay marriage or anything like that. This is a completely independent issue.
I am curious to know though, what is the secular argument for why beastiality acts should be illegal? I know you will all say that animals can't give consent, but if you're doing it in such a way that is not hurting them physically, mentally, or emotionally, and if they don't understand sex or what is going on, then why would we need their consent for it? We don't need their consent to do anything else to them as long as we're not hurting them. So why should sex acts be any different if sex can be purely a physical thing and nothing more, as I'm assuming most of you believe? Let's say someone puts peanut butter or something on their own private parts, for example. Why should that be illegal if the animal is just licking peanut butter and isn't being hurt in any way?
Along with the fact that it's just completely ew, my core reason for thinking it's immoral go together with my religious beliefs regarding sexual morality, so I'd like to hear the reasons from someone who is not motivated by religious beliefs.
Throughout this thread, I will be playing devil's advocate, and I'm sure it'll get gross and taboo. But make no mistake, I do not support these acts in any way shape or form.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
