RE: Christians - What would you do if it were discovered Jesus never existed?
September 7, 2015 at 4:38 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 10:15 am)Irrational Wrote:(September 7, 2015 at 9:59 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Suggesting that there have been various errors, both deliberate and otherwise, in the copying and translating of texts thousands of years old into various different languages is not an ad hoc argument. Suggesting that there is evidence that religious people can and do twist/fabricate the facts to support their story is also not an ad hoc argument. Suggesting that a religion started one way and developed into something else before splitting into literally thousands of squabbling factions is also not an ad hoc argument. Where is the ad hoc in what I'm saying?
It sure as hell is ad hoc especially without evidence to back your assertions. And please don't derail to other more general points. Let's stick to what the authentic Pauline Epistles say about Jesus first. Provide evidence that the words I provided are meant to be understood in the fashion you argue for, and not literally.
Those translations are literal. I'm not claiming those passages are metaphorical, I'm claiming they're about a story with different details than the Euhemerized version with all the vaguely historical places and people in it. At no point did I claim Paul was not speaking literally, only that he is understood and translated incorrectly and also probably redacted (intentionally and/or otherwise) to support the Jesus of Nazareth story.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com