I'd be happy to talk about "social wrongs" alleged by those who oppose gay marriage (or, as I like to call it, "marriage"), to try to convince those of us who are glad that we no longer prohibit marriage's legal protections to gay couples as if they are second-class citizens.
If you want to discuss biology, I'd be glad, as I am a former biologist and still pretty well-versed in human evolution and genetics, the latter being the specific field in which my fiancee works (I now work at home in my shop, building custom motorcycles, having found I could make more money working half as much, at my favorite hobby, rather than my former career, which gives me time to enjoy some fun online debates). I am also fairly well-versed in Constitutional law at the federal-versus-state level, particularly with regard to the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th amendment, so I'd be glad to discuss that, too.
The point about self-harm, and the right to bodily decisions, is a side-issue from the gay marriage thing, or rather, it's a tangent. So if you'd like to go back to enumerating the alleged social harms or discussing the biology of the issue, I'd be happy to engage you on that part of the main topic or any of the others I listed here. Can we just drop the whole thing about the amputated arms, please?
(Drop the amputated arms... hehe... I made an accidental joke!)
If you want to discuss biology, I'd be glad, as I am a former biologist and still pretty well-versed in human evolution and genetics, the latter being the specific field in which my fiancee works (I now work at home in my shop, building custom motorcycles, having found I could make more money working half as much, at my favorite hobby, rather than my former career, which gives me time to enjoy some fun online debates). I am also fairly well-versed in Constitutional law at the federal-versus-state level, particularly with regard to the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th amendment, so I'd be glad to discuss that, too.
The point about self-harm, and the right to bodily decisions, is a side-issue from the gay marriage thing, or rather, it's a tangent. So if you'd like to go back to enumerating the alleged social harms or discussing the biology of the issue, I'd be happy to engage you on that part of the main topic or any of the others I listed here. Can we just drop the whole thing about the amputated arms, please?
(Drop the amputated arms... hehe... I made an accidental joke!)
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.