RE: General question about the possibility of objective moral truth
September 14, 2015 at 11:52 am
(September 14, 2015 at 11:42 am)Nestor Wrote: While I don't think Chad's an asshole, his beliefs - which include all of the silly and morally repulsive tales of the Bible (I don't know if he thinks these are to be taken as historical events or not) - obviously aren't well thought up or evidenced so as to justify the confidence or smugness he conveys in defending them, and if he thinks philosophy can cover for his bald assertions about God or morality being this or that, he, like probably many atheists here, certainly hasn't given enough consideration to seriously grasp or deal with the problems.
True. Whether or not you're a Christian (or an atheist), being smug while completely misrepresenting or misunderstanding your own position and/or that of your opponents is assholery. Assholish? Assholy?
He's still an asshole.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.