Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?

[Aractus]

One of the problems with the Abrahamic god is that he doesn't do anything, despite what the Bible says he should be doing.

You know this how?

Because he makes promises and then breaks them. Do you not subscribe to the dispensationalist view point? And if you don't what is your opinion on his ancient covenants then?

Are you going to keep this within the confines of scripture or will you draw on speculation from outside the scriptures.
Isn't this God's right as creator of the universe and all that is contained in it. God says He is perfect and His creation was perfect until Adam and Eve change things by rejecting His love in disobedience, God's judgement is appropriate and does, as you say, stand today.

I believe I kept well within the confines of the Biblical scriptures.

By the way, if God is perfect then how are his created beings able to modify his creation? If you're saying Adam and Eve could do that - and they were just two human beings - imagine how much a celestial being like Lucifer could change God's creation? Imagine how much he and his legion of 1/3 of the angles of heaven could change God's creation then?

Yes humans were vegetarians before the flood, after the flood there was little vegetation and what was there the animals needed. Animals were plentiful and God gave man permission to eat meat to sustain both the vegetation and man. I would think that most of what man had consumed pre-flood was extremely limited and widely scattered. God made the animals fear man so they wouldn't be hunted to extinction quickly, it is for their survival and man having to toil for his food as God said under Adam's judgement. He hasn't flooded the earth again. Man wasn't killing animals before the flood, so God gave a distinction by law on killing, man's value is greater than an animal. Before the flood God punished, post flood God is allowing man to carry out punishment, this is new. Man was not allowed to punish Cain. As for the homosexuals this could be something new with man and we know God calls it an abomination, unnatural, against the creation command it populate the world and against what God set-up as marriage.

Humans cannot manufacture Vitamin B12. We need to import it wholesale from meat. Therefore it is impossible for us to survive without meat, we could not ever have been a vegetarian people.

You can argue modern humans can get B12 injections from their physician - and I have a family member who does this because their B12 levels are low despite the fact they eat meat every day.

There are many animals that don't fear us.

We still see rainbows. Surely if this covenant no longer applies than God would have removed the visual seal by now?

Do you see the problem? God sealed the covenant, and the seal is still visible today, yet he no longer keeps the covenant.

• Abrahamic covenant: Genesis 15. This is the single most disturbing covenant Yahweh makes, because he blatantly lies to and misleads Abram. He foretells that the Israelite people will be enslaved in Egypt for four hundred years and promises to deliver them, with great possessions, and then to lead them to the land of Canaan, the land where Abraham is now, to possess. In Genesis 17 he renews the covenant with Abram (now Abraham) and tells him that his descendants shall have the whole of the Canaan land to possess as an eternal possession.
  

What lie, you believe God lied because He didn't give Abraham all the details of the future, exactly why would the Creator of the universe be required to give all details, because you think the omniscient and omnipotent God should do as you want, that's simply a crazy notion. They would have the whole of the land of Canaan to posses as long as they obeyed Him. They were disobeying God from the get go and started suffering the consequences of the disobedience. Do you know all the land God was going to hand over to them as long as they obeyed? I believe what I've stated here eats up what you have said below.

I wasn't talking about what he "doesn't say" GC. I was talking about what he does say. He tells Abram explicitly that the whole of the Canaan land shall be an inheritance for his offspring to possess forever. It is an unconditional covenant, meaning he doesn't require Abram do anything or keep any commandment to earn it. Hid descendants didn't have to obey anything to receive the covenant, it's unconditional.

Let me explain, God first delivers the covenant in Genesis 12. It's not until Genesis 17 that he instructs Abram to keep the ritual of circumcision. In any case, by Jesus's time by every account the Jewish people had kept the custom of circumcision as instructed in Genesis 17 but did not any longer possess the land God promised Abram.

Just because no one has disproved the Exodus or proved it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Chariot wheels have been found at the bottom of the Red Sea, do you think the Egyptians were trying to make floating chariots for battles at sea. They didn't possess the whole of Canaan because of their disobedience and lack of trust and faith in God. God said this would happen before they entered Canaan and that it would be seized by other nations before they entered Canaan.

I have a six hour trip tomorrow so I need to stop here and go to bed, maybe I can find the time to counter your points later.

GC

Ron Wyatt was a quack. If he had really found chariot wheels in the Red Sea he would have documented it properly so it could be properly investigated - which he didn't. Who knows what he saw.

And again, the Genesis 12 Abrahamic covenant is UNCONDITIONAL. It doesn't matter if they disobey; and if you're claiming otherwise then God pulled a bait-and-switch.