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Are Spaniards white?
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RE: Are Spaniards white?
Even the colonization of Europe by Cro Magnon Homo sapiens was not a single thing; it was accomplished in seven "waves", the last one being ~10K years before present, originating mainly from the area of what is now Turkey (and over the Caucasus mountains, whence the name of the "white race"), and every nation in Europe is a blend of those seven gene pool groups, as shown by mtDNA studies of the populations of those countries. Most interestingly (to me) is that the settlers of Europe were not white-skinned, and the population of Europe were not white until several thousands of years after it was settled. I'll get into that more, later.

In modern times, even after white skin became effectively ubiquitous in Europe, there's still a lot that renders the idea of "pure" whiteness a false description of European genetics. That's not even counting the influence of the Arab-Muslim invasions, Carthagenian intermixture with African stock, and all the more modern population influxes. In short, "white race" is, as pointed out already by several of us, not a useful description of humanity, despite our tendency to fixate on skin tone as a basis for visual classification. Since most of these populations have admixed in the past 30,000 years of European migration and warfare, they are far from "hard and fast" categories, but there are a few classifications that can be drawn from traits common to the gene pools (which I won't get into, as it's tedious to anyone who isn't a physical anthropologist... including me).

All that said, there are several sub-groups of "Caucasian gene pools", in terms of phylogenetic trait expression. Remember that these are only broad categories, and almost all individuals within any one category will be varied in what percentages of the various origin-group genes are expressed in their family lineage.

Since this is already too long for a post, I have hide-tagged my detailed description of what I recall about racial classifications, and their significance.


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Are Spaniards white? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 7, 2015 at 1:42 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Longhorn - September 7, 2015 at 1:53 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 7, 2015 at 2:03 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Napoléon - September 7, 2015 at 1:53 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by brewer - September 7, 2015 at 1:53 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 7, 2015 at 1:57 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by abaris - October 11, 2015 at 7:47 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by downbeatplumb - September 7, 2015 at 2:03 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by rexbeccarox - September 7, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 7, 2015 at 2:26 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Longhorn - September 7, 2015 at 2:42 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Jackalope - September 7, 2015 at 2:55 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Alex K - September 7, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by vorlon13 - September 7, 2015 at 4:09 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by pocaracas - September 7, 2015 at 4:25 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by GUBU - October 11, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 11, 2015 at 6:48 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 22, 2015 at 6:03 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Regina - October 22, 2015 at 6:15 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 22, 2015 at 6:34 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Regina - October 23, 2015 at 3:49 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Regina - October 11, 2015 at 8:37 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Regina - October 11, 2015 at 8:47 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by brewer - October 11, 2015 at 9:09 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 11, 2015 at 10:46 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by vorlon13 - October 12, 2015 at 12:25 am
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by abaris - October 21, 2015 at 5:42 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Cato - October 28, 2015 at 9:50 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Lemonvariable72 - October 21, 2015 at 12:33 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by LastPoet - October 21, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Lemonvariable72 - October 21, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Regina - October 21, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Lemonvariable72 - October 21, 2015 at 2:40 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by pocaracas - October 21, 2015 at 3:47 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Jenny A - October 21, 2015 at 4:19 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by MentalGiant - October 21, 2015 at 6:37 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Regina - October 21, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Lemonvariable72 - October 21, 2015 at 10:34 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by bennyboy - October 28, 2015 at 8:24 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Dystopia - October 28, 2015 at 8:41 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Regina - October 28, 2015 at 9:39 pm
RE: Are Spaniards white? - by Dystopia - October 29, 2015 at 4:59 am

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