(October 30, 2015 at 5:02 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:(October 30, 2015 at 4:52 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Why is it that, as much as Yahweh wants a relationship with us, and as much as he values the idea that we need to do what he wants, it's US that has to seek him before he actually commits to us?Listen, the way is simple and narrow and easy. God made access to Him as easy as drinking water. Your faith is accounted for righteousness and not your life long obedience. God made the terms and it's simple. His mercy is rich but there is a ceiling and after the second coming, it's too late; just like when the doors of the ark were closed before the flood.
It's not that I want nothing to do with him. It's that I don't know conclusively that he exists, and the way he's portrayed in his holy book is not endearing. Gods having children is not a new thing there are many stories about people of divine birth, especially if you learn about Zeus. So someone being the son of a god isn't very impressive. Much less the idea that brutally murdering an innocent person somehow absolves a bad person of their sin. We have progressed enough as a culture that we don't believe blood has magical qualities, and that it's considered a breach of justice for a guilty person to scapegoat an innocent person.
It's not a simple thing. apparently the only way we can work this out conclusiely is if we die, or Jesus comes back in the second coming. In which case it's apparntly too late for some reason. which smells of a scam.
Jesus is the only way to God.
daniel the thing is that you have to convince them first that there is a God and that Jesus is the way to God . you have to back up your claim that God exists and Jesus is the way to salvation what youve said so far isnt convincing that its true
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today 
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John LennonThe easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
