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Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist
RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist
(October 28, 2015 at 3:29 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: http://christianity.about.com/od/easter/...ection.htm

this article is informative.

"Proof" 1:

Point to me the actual tomb, and then point to me the evidence that a Jesus son of Joseph was laid to rest there, and then point to me the evidence that he was revivified and walked out. There are any number of supposed tombs of Jesus, just as there are over 40 "relics" of his holy foreskin cut off at birth. You cannot even locate his tomb with certainty, because there are no burial records for him.

"Proof" 2:

Unsubstantiated hearsay. Where are the sworn statements, the verified back up. And even then, sworn eyewitness testimony is nearly the worst possible type of evidence, simply because the mind has almost innumerable ways of playing tricks on itself.

"Proof" 3:

Unsubstantiated hearsay. We have no evidence outside of the bible (similar to "proof" 2 above) of Jesus' disciples and their preaching. In fact from the words of Saul of Tarsus, we can be confident that nearly 20 years after the supposed death of Jesus his cult numbered no more than 100 people. Not a great testament to the courage of his disciples nor their effectiveness in preaching them (especially when you remember that early Principate Iudea was lousy with messiahs some with thousands of followers).

"Proof" 4:

See my response to proof three. You simply cannot present unevidenced assertions from propaganda tracts which have been repeatedly changed over nearly two millennia to reinforce a post-hoc story line and expect rational, marginally intelligent and sceptical enquirers to accept them.

"Proof" 5:

No there are no large crowds of eyewtinesses, see my last post above.

"Proof" 6:

Saul of Tarsus was thrown from his horse, hit his head on a rock, and due to his subsequent brain trauma had a hallucination. Plus, I'm of the opinion that his "conversion" was more to do with the chance of monetary gain than with any genuine belief. One of the defining truths of all religions is that on foundation or soon after they are swamped with snake oil salesmen out to make a quick buck. And everything we know about Saul supports the hypothesis that he was a carpetbagger.

"Proof" 7:

Thousands willingly died for Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Hitler, Ghengiz Khan et cetera, et cetera, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. Does that make them gods? No, nor does the fact that believers dying for Jesus make his cult any more a reflection of the truth.

So of your proofs not even one is sufficiently strong enough to convince a person of even marginal intelligence, unless they've been brought up predisposed to believe in the Jesus cult.
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Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist - by sinnerdaniel94 - October 27, 2015 at 9:50 pm
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