RE: Evidence God Exists
January 15, 2011 at 6:58 pm
(This post was last modified: January 15, 2011 at 7:07 pm by AngelThMan.)
Welsh cake;114396 Wrote:Because then believing in him and prayer would not require faith. They would be a proven fact, hence what is the need for faith?AngelThMan Wrote:If God were to answer their prayers, God too would be participating in a scientific study which he doesn't want in the first place.Why? If God exists and cares about his creation as you claim he does why doesn't he want to show faith and prayer work?
Welsh cake;114396 Wrote:Why is he afraid of a little scrutiny from us ants when he's the big bad daddy emperor of the universe?God is not afraid of anything humans can throw at him. But he is God and therefore commands the respect of being treated and believed in like a god. A god doesn't make his presence known through clinical tests or scientific studies which would unequivocally prove his existence. If God did, he would no longer be a god. He would be a dictator, or a president, or a king. By definition, a god is a spirit which humans cannot see and must believe in solely by faith.
TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote:Within a clinical study, yes.AngelThMan Wrote:... and what purpose would that serve, exactly? Other than uselessly and pointlessly obfuscating his own existance.TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote:You do understand how these tests work, don't you?No, that would be too obvious, and it would fuel the notion of someone being behind the results. It would defeat God's purpose of withholding any kind of usable results from scientists. A more subtle way is to have the people who prayed fare a little worse, which seems to be what happens in a lot of these studies.
The tests for prayer are simple - if prayer is effective, it'll yield results. Which is to say either prayer will work or it will not. The only way for god to foil these results are to NOT ANSWER THE PRAYERS (all of them) and have the results of praying be exactly the same as not praying...
Praying still becomes no different than not praying in terms of whether or not it works at all.