(January 19, 2016 at 12:14 pm)Irrational Wrote:(January 19, 2016 at 12:07 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Man, people are about to get shitty with me about this.
The "wage gap" argument is one of the reasons you and I had that argument a while back about why "feminist" isn't a label I want. What you're describing is an "earnings gap," and there are lots of factors that play into it. Men tend to work more hours and take riskier jobs with more demands, hence the higher pay grades of those jobs. When women work those same jobs for the same hours, they make the same amount.
In pretty much all of the Western world, it is illegal to pay a woman less than a man for the same work, and the stats reflect that. Women as a broad group still earn less than men during their lifetimes, but women who make the same choices and work the same jobs as men make the same pay.
Yes, I'm sure that there are still instances where employers knowingly discriminate against women, but it's far from systemic, at least in America and its peer countries. The fact is that if you work like a man, you'll earn what a man earns nine times out of ten. The reason for the earnings gap is that there are lots of women in the numbers who either don't work at all or whose work suffers because of children and/or their choice of job and lifestyle.
Oh look, I seem to have lost my umbrella.
Here's a link for you:
http://www.aauw.org/files/2015/09/The-Si...l-2015.pdf
Page 8 if you don't wish to read the whole thing.
That article seems to be describing a difference in earnings amongst similarly-educated college graduates, not the wages of males and females doing the same jobs. Again, that's an "earnings gap," not a "wage gap." Earning less than a similarly educated person and getting lower wages for doing the exact same job and hours are two different things.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com