The Immorality of God - Slavery in the Old Testament

[athrock]

So here's a quicky.

Could God achieve everything he wanted to in his plan, without slavery being made possible?

Same question for rape, violence, and so on.

If he could, then he's chosen to include these things because he wanted them there, and not for any other reason.

If he couldn't, then he has suspicious arbitrary context-sensitive restrictions depending on the argument at hand.

Yes, God could have achieved his plan without these things. These things were not part of His plan. They resulted from the fall of man.

If good is meant to come out of bad somehow, then he could just make the exact same amount of good, with all the knowledge and strength that may be, without letting anyone enslave anyone ever.

God did not create bad things in order for good things to come out of them. Man chose to do bad things, and yet, God is still able to bring about good from them.

Imagine an amazing wonderland where you can do anything you want, and have fun all day. Anything you can imagine, you can do. You just can't hurt anyone else. This would actually be a hell of a lot more free will than we currently have. For example, I'd be off roller skating through space eating endless pizzas and looking for clues in an amazing new interactive detective game I decided I wanted. Then I'd stop and chat with some friends, and maybe we'd play ultra-cards, a game perfectly designed for our group to fit in maximally with how we could enjoy a card game.

It would never cross our minds to hurt each other, ever. And we physically can't do it, even by accident.

Would you go live in that universe, or stay here?

Rob, you write these breezy posts and then when pressed, you say you're "formally done". Really? You're a mod. You're not going anywhere. You may even HAVE to read my posts just to keep an eye on things. (Maybe you only have to monitor the reported posts.)

I, on the other hand, can never be formally done with you, because I can't put a mod on my ignore list. So, the best I can do is to informally ignore you.

But I won't. You seem like a nice guy, and you mean well. You just haven't learned well.

Now, be honest, okay? What was the last book you read cover to cover that was written BY a Christian and when did you read it?