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Another fake Catholic miracle.
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RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
From WIKI :

During the canonization process employed by the Roman Catholic Church, the Promoter of the Faith (Latin: promotor fidei), popularly known as the Devil's advocate (Latin: advocatus diaboli), was a canon lawyer appointed by Church authorities to argue against the canonization of a candidate.[2] It was this person’s job to take a skeptical view of the candidate's character, to look for holes in the evidence, to argue that any miracles attributed to the candidate were fraudulent, and so on. The Devil's advocate opposed God's advocate (Latin: advocatus Dei; also known as the Promoter of the Cause), whose task was to make the argument in favor of canonization. During the investigation of a cause, this task is now performed by the Promoter of Justice (promotor iustitiae), who is in charge of examining the accuracy of the inquiry on the saintliness of the candidate.[3] The Promoter of the Faith remains a figure in the Congregation of the Causes of Saints and is also known as the Prelate Theologian.[4]

The office was established in 1587 during the reign of Pope Sixtus V. The first formal mention of such an officer is found in the canonization of St. Lawrence Justinian under Pope Leo X (1513–21).[5] Pope John Paul II reduced the power and changed the role of the office in 1983.[6] This reform changed the canonization process considerably, helping John Paul II to usher in an unprecedented number of elevations: nearly 500 individuals were canonized and over 1,300 were beatified during his tenure as Pope as compared to only 98 canonizations by all his 20th-century predecessors. In cases of controversy the Vatican may still seek to informally solicit the testimony of critics of a candidate for canonization. Aroup Chatterjee, the author of the book Mother Teresa: The Final Verdict, testified against the late nun as a so-called devil's advocate.


My take:
Looks like John Paul II greased the wheels to get more holy action going. Seems rather self serving to me, being able to pass out more boodle is a tried and true management technique. Seems a little too much 'carrot' to me instead of 'stick' however, and we all now Abrahamic deities are much more stick oriented.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Jehanne - February 6, 2016 at 4:53 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Chad32 - February 6, 2016 at 5:02 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Jehanne - February 6, 2016 at 5:25 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Clueless Morgan - February 6, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Clueless Morgan - February 6, 2016 at 5:16 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Jehanne - February 6, 2016 at 5:23 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Minimalist - February 6, 2016 at 5:19 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Chad32 - February 6, 2016 at 5:27 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Clueless Morgan - February 6, 2016 at 5:49 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Jenny A - February 6, 2016 at 5:59 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Clueless Morgan - February 6, 2016 at 7:48 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by NaughtyButNice - February 6, 2016 at 6:04 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 6, 2016 at 7:51 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Jehanne - February 6, 2016 at 9:31 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 6, 2016 at 9:37 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 6, 2016 at 9:41 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 6, 2016 at 9:53 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Brakeman - February 6, 2016 at 9:48 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Jehanne - February 6, 2016 at 9:53 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 6, 2016 at 9:54 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Brakeman - February 6, 2016 at 10:33 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 6, 2016 at 10:35 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Brakeman - February 8, 2016 at 8:50 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 8, 2016 at 10:28 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Homeless Nutter - February 6, 2016 at 11:42 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Jehanne - February 7, 2016 at 11:16 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Grandizer - February 7, 2016 at 2:43 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Homeless Nutter - February 7, 2016 at 5:35 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by abaris - February 6, 2016 at 8:07 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by dyresand - February 6, 2016 at 10:47 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Nay_Sayer - February 7, 2016 at 12:39 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Bob Kelso - February 7, 2016 at 12:35 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by FebruaryOfReason - February 7, 2016 at 11:33 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by vorlon13 - February 7, 2016 at 11:34 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Brakeman - February 8, 2016 at 8:38 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by mediocrates - February 8, 2016 at 10:28 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 8, 2016 at 10:32 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Grandizer - February 8, 2016 at 10:45 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 8, 2016 at 8:46 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Grandizer - February 9, 2016 at 12:23 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 9, 2016 at 12:28 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Grandizer - February 9, 2016 at 4:40 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 9, 2016 at 8:47 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Grandizer - February 9, 2016 at 8:52 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 9, 2016 at 8:58 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Brakeman - February 9, 2016 at 9:11 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 9, 2016 at 9:17 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Brakeman - February 9, 2016 at 1:40 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 9, 2016 at 5:44 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Homeless Nutter - February 10, 2016 at 7:50 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Edwardo Piet - February 10, 2016 at 11:37 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Ravenshire - February 9, 2016 at 1:51 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Grandizer - February 9, 2016 at 2:11 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 9, 2016 at 5:50 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Brakeman - February 9, 2016 at 2:17 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Ravenshire - February 9, 2016 at 2:44 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 9, 2016 at 5:45 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Ravenshire - February 9, 2016 at 9:10 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Jehanne - February 9, 2016 at 11:21 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by robvalue - February 8, 2016 at 10:39 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by mediocrates - February 8, 2016 at 10:51 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by mediocrates - February 8, 2016 at 3:33 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by ignoramus - February 8, 2016 at 6:46 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by vorlon13 - February 8, 2016 at 7:09 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by robvalue - February 9, 2016 at 3:32 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Edwardo Piet - February 9, 2016 at 4:17 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Edwardo Piet - February 9, 2016 at 8:20 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by robvalue - February 9, 2016 at 8:35 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Edwardo Piet - February 9, 2016 at 9:22 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by vorlon13 - February 9, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by robvalue - February 9, 2016 at 1:16 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by vorlon13 - February 9, 2016 at 2:12 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by robvalue - February 9, 2016 at 1:46 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by drfuzzy - February 9, 2016 at 2:59 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Divinity - February 9, 2016 at 2:26 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by mediocrates - February 9, 2016 at 2:34 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by The Valkyrie - February 9, 2016 at 2:51 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by KevinM1 - February 9, 2016 at 2:52 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Ravenshire - February 9, 2016 at 3:00 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by ignoramus - February 9, 2016 at 9:41 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by vorlon13 - February 10, 2016 at 12:22 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by robvalue - February 10, 2016 at 1:47 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 10, 2016 at 11:34 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by SofaKingHigh - February 10, 2016 at 11:38 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Catholic_Lady - February 10, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by SofaKingHigh - February 10, 2016 at 11:43 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Nay_Sayer - August 10, 2017 at 8:57 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by ignoramus - February 10, 2016 at 3:33 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Edwardo Piet - February 10, 2016 at 11:39 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Edwardo Piet - February 10, 2016 at 11:45 am
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by FebruaryOfReason - February 12, 2016 at 2:51 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by robvalue - February 12, 2016 at 3:23 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Jehanne - August 11, 2017 at 1:30 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Brian37 - August 11, 2017 at 1:55 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Minimalist - August 10, 2017 at 9:29 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Joods - August 10, 2017 at 9:44 pm
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle. - by Minimalist - August 11, 2017 at 1:51 pm

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