RE: The backbreaker
February 27, 2016 at 4:40 am
(This post was last modified: February 27, 2016 at 4:46 am by Nihilist Virus.)
(February 27, 2016 at 3:14 am)Godschild Wrote:(February 26, 2016 at 1:45 am)Nihilist Virus Wrote: I don't need all of them. Just the one that says that a son may be put to death for the sins of his father.
Or have you forgotten the premise?
There is no such law, you yourself brought that evidence to this tread. You tried to counter that law with the incident of David and Bathsheba and I told you that God had forgiven David before David's son became sick, God didn't kill the child He didn't heal the child after it got sick, it was a punishment for David not the child. Like I said it was a punishment David would never forget and the child is now in heaven with God, this child was innocent of all wrong doing it was only a few weeks old. Your whole deal is proving the Bible is flawed and I doubt (but will hope) the things I show you are true and consistent. I'm not going to say that I can't explain all the Bible to you, I'm not finished learning what God will be showing me in His word, there are things I do not understand but I'm hungry for all I can learn. God has taught me much over the years, some through others, some just because I asked with determination to understand what I was having trouble with understanding, how certain things in the Bible could possibly match up with the rest, again I look forward to God's revelation to me for my personal understanding. He's shown me why I was confused and revealed what I needed to know to understand certain passages that seemed not to fit, some of these things took years. Patients is truly a virtue and my faith was strengthened into knowledge of God and who He is, that's why I patiently wait on Him for those things that still give me trouble. I now know there are answers that will make those things consistent with the rest of the Bible. You see I know the problem is not God's word, it's my lack of understanding.
GC
There is no such law, you yourself brought that evidence to this tread.
Deuteronomy 24:16
Allow me to summarize the point again.
God had a covenant with the Jews. A part of it is laid out in Deuteronomy 24:16. In 2 Samuel 12 it is clear that God killed the son.
You tried to counter that law with the incident of David and Bathsheba and I told you that God had forgiven David before David's son became sick, God didn't kill the child He didn't heal the child after it got sick, it was a punishment for David not the child.
WRONG.
Nathan says in verse 14,
Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of Jehovah to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.
If a prophet of God says the child will die, and it happens, it's clearly God's doing. Surely Nathan is not summoning demons or his own power to make this happen. He was told it would happen by God.
It seems that your argument is this:
1. David sinned
2. God decides he wants to punish David
3. God, knowing the future, sees that David's son was already going to die no matter what
4. God punished David by doing nothing and allowing events to unfold naturally
Seems kind of like a stupid argument, especially considering that this God had no problem with deliberately/purposefully/manually killing people left and right.
BTW, as it is written the infant fell ill and took a week to die, so not only did God kill an infant but he tortured it first.
Now the point is that God is clearly above the law he gave to the Jews. And I don't see any indication that he isn't above whatever the hell law you're talking about. And if God is above the law, then the death of Christ was entirely pointless.
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.