Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: May 28, 2024, 8:14 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Free will & the Conservation Laws
#16
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws
(February 28, 2016 at 4:56 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(February 28, 2016 at 2:49 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I agree that free will is illusory (just because actions feel free doesn't mean they are), but wherever did you get the notion that the human brain is irreducibly complex?

Boru

The brain is irreducibly complex in that it is much more than 0s & 1s; after all, has anyone simulated a human or mammalian brain?  The answer, of course, is, "Yes," but such have all been very poor to poor simulations.  So far, consciousness exists only in brains and not in computers, and in my opinion, computers will never have consciousness.  For one, most of the human brain is fat, or myelin, which acts as an insulator but also as a messenger, but, I am not expert.  So, whatever makes up consciousness is likely to be found in wetware and not inorganic materials, which make-up computers.

But that's nothing to do with irreducible complexity. The term means that, if you have a system with multiple parts, removing any of those parts renders the whole system inoperable. In other words, you cannot reduce the complexity of the system without destroying it. Lots of people have lost bits of their brain (including your Humble Narrator) and are able to function as if nothing were missing. In some cases, brains have been observed to reroute functions to other parts of the brain to compensate for the missing bits.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Jehanne - February 28, 2016 at 2:38 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by robvalue - February 28, 2016 at 2:42 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Angrboda - February 28, 2016 at 2:51 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 28, 2016 at 2:49 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Jehanne - February 28, 2016 at 4:56 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by AFTT47 - February 28, 2016 at 5:34 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 28, 2016 at 8:47 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Jehanne - February 28, 2016 at 9:55 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by I_am_not_mafia - February 29, 2016 at 5:15 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Jehanne - February 29, 2016 at 8:59 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by I_am_not_mafia - February 29, 2016 at 9:46 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by bennyboy - February 29, 2016 at 10:19 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by I_am_not_mafia - February 29, 2016 at 11:09 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by bennyboy - February 29, 2016 at 12:51 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by vorlon13 - February 28, 2016 at 3:09 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by I_am_not_mafia - February 29, 2016 at 5:01 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by The Grand Nudger - February 28, 2016 at 5:03 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by FebruaryOfReason - February 28, 2016 at 5:06 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 29, 2016 at 5:51 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by The Grand Nudger - February 28, 2016 at 5:17 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Alex K - February 28, 2016 at 5:47 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Jehanne - February 28, 2016 at 7:17 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by bennyboy - February 28, 2016 at 7:37 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Jehanne - February 28, 2016 at 7:48 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by bennyboy - February 28, 2016 at 9:53 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Alex K - February 29, 2016 at 5:05 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by bennyboy - February 29, 2016 at 8:56 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by bennyboy - February 28, 2016 at 7:00 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by robvalue - February 29, 2016 at 4:32 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by I_am_not_mafia - February 29, 2016 at 5:28 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Alex K - February 29, 2016 at 5:30 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by I_am_not_mafia - February 29, 2016 at 5:43 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Alex K - February 29, 2016 at 6:11 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by robvalue - February 29, 2016 at 6:11 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Alex K - February 29, 2016 at 6:14 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by robvalue - February 29, 2016 at 6:16 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Alex K - February 29, 2016 at 6:57 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by I_am_not_mafia - February 29, 2016 at 7:05 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Alex K - February 29, 2016 at 7:19 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by robvalue - February 29, 2016 at 9:03 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2016 at 9:21 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by bennyboy - February 29, 2016 at 10:17 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by robvalue - February 29, 2016 at 9:23 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by I_am_not_mafia - February 29, 2016 at 9:43 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2016 at 9:28 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2016 at 9:51 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by I_am_not_mafia - February 29, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2016 at 11:04 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2016 at 12:52 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by robvalue - February 29, 2016 at 4:47 pm
Free will & the Conservation Laws - by LadyForCamus - February 29, 2016 at 5:05 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Alex K - February 29, 2016 at 5:57 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2016 at 6:01 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by vorlon13 - February 29, 2016 at 8:27 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Alex K - March 1, 2016 at 2:58 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Jehanne - March 1, 2016 at 7:45 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Jehanne - March 1, 2016 at 7:48 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by robvalue - March 1, 2016 at 2:42 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by robvalue - March 1, 2016 at 3:12 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by robvalue - March 1, 2016 at 9:20 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by robvalue - March 1, 2016 at 9:48 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by robvalue - March 1, 2016 at 10:09 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by vorlon13 - March 1, 2016 at 10:29 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Angrboda - March 1, 2016 at 10:40 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by bennyboy - March 1, 2016 at 10:48 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Angrboda - March 1, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by robvalue - March 1, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by robvalue - March 1, 2016 at 1:22 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by robvalue - March 1, 2016 at 1:55 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by vorlon13 - March 1, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by vorlon13 - March 2, 2016 at 2:44 pm
RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws - by Ignorant - April 14, 2016 at 6:14 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Can the laws of physics bring something into existence? Freedom of thought 23 5800 June 23, 2014 at 12:43 pm
Last Post: Surgenator
  Natural Laws, and Causation. TheBigOhMan 3 1619 June 4, 2013 at 11:45 pm
Last Post: TheBigOhMan



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)