(February 29, 2016 at 9:21 am)Rhythm Wrote: Generally...when there's no way to determine a difference between two things or potential states....it's because there isn't one.
I think that you make a mistake in considering consciousness to be something which you can only assume. Do you simply assume that a rock -isn't- conscious, and what conclusion must you first assume when trying to determine the conscious status of a rock (for or against), exactly? Additionally, why is the choice between "philosophical zombies" and experience...are you sure that they're opposing states? When I watch a movie I;m experiencing it, but I'm not in control of how it plays out for the simple fact of being conscious myself.
Personally, I think that people silently attach thing to consciousness and then formulate objections to those things -as- consciousness. It's probably not intentional.......zombies after all, lol.
Did someone call me?