(March 6, 2016 at 11:18 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(February 9, 2016 at 6:47 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: Then in 2 Samuel 12:13-20, David's son is killed by God because of sins committed by David.
I don't think this is the message that is trying to get across. Even if you take the OT literally, which I certainly don't.
Since the child was innocent of personal sins, we know that he/she would have been received into heaven immediately upon death. And in this way, the child was spared a lifetime of being mocked and scorned by the people of Israel who would have known that the child was the illegitimate son of David resulting from his adultery with Bathsheba.
Firstly, such scorning would only be a result of the society that God himself established, a system where rape victims and illegitimate children are stigmatized.
Secondly, you must somehow be unaware that Solomon had a thousand wives and concubines. Were all of his children scorned as bastards? Do you not understand that as royalty, this child would live a wonderful life of luxury? Provided, of course, he isn't killed by royal politics while wrestling for the throne.
Thirdly, do you really think that the child would've preferred to have not lived his life, even if your absurd remark about a life of being scorned were true? There are tons of people who have shame in their lives, or at least things perceived as shameful by others, and they still very much want to live.
In conclusion, this is the worst argument I've ever heard from you.
Quote:Basically, the child was not punished for what David did, as you seem to think. But rather, God showed mercy to the child by taking it to heaven.
Mercy? Did you miss the part where he tortured the child for a week? Also, where does it say the child went to heaven? God personally killing him is not a ringing endorsement. Also, I thought you couldn't get into heaven unless you accepted Jesus as your personal Lord and savior. How could an infant do that? If you are of the theology that people ignorant of Christ's existence are forgiven for not believing in him, then WTF is the point in missionary work? Aside from molesting children and hording wealth (which they use to quiet said children), the church is most known for missionary work.
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.