(March 10, 2016 at 6:52 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: Er, Atlas, you said "the Quran orders humanity". Giving orders is not the same as giving advice. I still respect you, but I think that you are living in fantasy land if you think that orders=friendly advice. An order is an imposition.
You clearly did not say in your first reply to me in this topic, "the Quran advises humanity". Maybe you didn't mean it to sound assertive like that, but it didn't sound like you meant the Quran is simply giving friendly advice. "The Quran orders humanity" is the sort of things Wahaabi/Salafi and Twelvers would say like when they had those "Sharia Control Zones" in London. They want to order everyone to live by their standards.
I'm sorry for being so defensive, but "the Quran orders" has lead to bad things. It has led to people imposing their beliefs on Kuffar. I am sorry for the misunderstanding.
Perhaps it was a wrong choice of words.
Allah orders, Muslims advice, I thought this concept will be clear from the flow of the topic.
Humans have no authority, there shall be no compulsion in religion; that verse was for us humans.
But even God himself, doesn't force belief on nobody; he can if he wanted, but he never did or does.
It's an order. Those who defy it will meet the judgement of the God who revealed that message.
What I can do, is advice and warn.
I don't think that deserves drawing guns.
Anyhow,