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You Can't Disprove a Miracle
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle
(March 15, 2016 at 2:41 pm)robvalue Wrote: Steve. I don't mean this to be insulting, I say this out of genuine concern before I leave the discussion.

You're a smart guy. It makes me sad to see you twisting science, mathematic and logic just to try and convince yourself that the events in a specific storybook are possible.

But you don't believe the book is real due to any of this. I can say that much with near certainty. Because the conclusion that you want, that isn't even possible to reach here, doesn't go 1% towards your final goal of having credible reason to believe the book is real.

I think it's a shame to see you wasting all this mental effort to make reality fit into a story book.

I shall leave you alone now.

Perhaps you will read this reply.

I come here once in a while to exercise my brain--not to convince myself of anything. 

No, I do not believe because of these arguments or any of the other standard logical arguments. While I do not think I am twisting anything, I can see why you think that. I present an argument in support of x (not just this subject). Objections are made. I point out nuances that elicit various reactions (some more colorful than others). I adapt my approach some to try to make my point again. My points makes sense defending from a Christian worldview. Very likely not convincing anyone from an atheist position. The atheist, by definition, has significantly less options that he/she can consider.
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You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Rhondazvous - March 8, 2016 at 10:49 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Drich - March 8, 2016 at 10:58 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Joods - March 8, 2016 at 12:46 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Jenny A - March 8, 2016 at 1:32 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Drich - March 10, 2016 at 11:54 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Joods - March 10, 2016 at 1:49 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Brian37 - March 10, 2016 at 1:42 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Minimalist - March 8, 2016 at 11:32 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by vorlon13 - March 8, 2016 at 11:39 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by abaris - March 8, 2016 at 12:16 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Rhondazvous - March 10, 2016 at 9:01 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Ivan Denisovich - March 8, 2016 at 2:26 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Joods - March 8, 2016 at 4:04 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Brian37 - March 8, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Old Baby - March 8, 2016 at 4:45 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by FebruaryOfReason - March 8, 2016 at 4:50 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Crossless1 - March 8, 2016 at 5:41 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Brian37 - March 8, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Crossless1 - March 8, 2016 at 5:56 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Brian37 - March 8, 2016 at 6:00 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 8, 2016 at 6:43 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Drich - March 10, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 8, 2016 at 6:42 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 10, 2016 at 12:28 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Drich - March 10, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by abaris - March 10, 2016 at 12:42 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Drich - March 10, 2016 at 12:58 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by abaris - March 10, 2016 at 1:23 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Old Baby - March 10, 2016 at 1:02 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Divinity - March 10, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 11:09 am
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 12:41 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 1:42 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 3:57 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Rhondazvous - March 12, 2016 at 7:18 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Mister Agenda - March 11, 2016 at 12:10 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 11, 2016 at 12:35 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 12:42 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 1:44 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 1:49 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 1:58 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 2:04 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 2:17 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 2:22 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 2:40 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Rhondazvous - March 12, 2016 at 6:56 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 2:45 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 3:46 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 4:12 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 5:15 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 5:33 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Drich - March 14, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 12, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by little_monkey - March 12, 2016 at 1:28 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 12, 2016 at 1:43 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 14, 2016 at 8:48 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 14, 2016 at 10:10 am
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 14, 2016 at 9:12 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by little_monkey - March 14, 2016 at 9:28 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 14, 2016 at 11:40 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 14, 2016 at 1:28 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by ignoramus - March 14, 2016 at 8:21 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 8:21 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by little_monkey - March 15, 2016 at 11:20 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2016 at 6:03 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by KevinM1 - March 14, 2016 at 6:21 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 14, 2016 at 7:14 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 15, 2016 at 4:02 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2016 at 6:19 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 10:32 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 15, 2016 at 9:46 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 10:21 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Expired - March 15, 2016 at 10:30 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 15, 2016 at 10:31 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 15, 2016 at 10:36 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 10:53 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Expired - March 15, 2016 at 10:42 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 15, 2016 at 10:44 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 11:21 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Mister Agenda - March 15, 2016 at 11:27 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 15, 2016 at 10:48 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 15, 2016 at 10:52 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 15, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 15, 2016 at 11:25 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 15, 2016 at 11:28 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 15, 2016 at 11:29 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 15, 2016 at 11:39 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 12:01 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 15, 2016 at 1:47 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 1:51 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Mister Agenda - March 16, 2016 at 9:49 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2016 at 12:01 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 15, 2016 at 12:04 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 15, 2016 at 1:56 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 2:03 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Divinity - March 15, 2016 at 12:25 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 15, 2016 at 12:32 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 15, 2016 at 1:55 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 15, 2016 at 2:04 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 2:20 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2016 at 2:07 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 15, 2016 at 2:08 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 15, 2016 at 2:41 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 3:10 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 2:42 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Mister Agenda - March 16, 2016 at 10:04 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 15, 2016 at 2:56 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2016 at 3:08 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 3:16 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2016 at 3:12 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 4:37 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2016 at 5:03 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 5:19 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by IATIA - March 15, 2016 at 7:10 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Expired - March 16, 2016 at 5:36 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2016 at 5:21 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 16, 2016 at 8:28 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 16, 2016 at 5:12 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by ignoramus - March 16, 2016 at 7:23 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 16, 2016 at 8:43 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 16, 2016 at 8:50 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 16, 2016 at 9:03 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 16, 2016 at 9:26 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 16, 2016 at 9:56 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 16, 2016 at 10:01 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 16, 2016 at 10:05 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 16, 2016 at 10:12 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by KevinM1 - March 17, 2016 at 2:59 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by ignoramus - March 17, 2016 at 4:08 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by robvalue - March 18, 2016 at 8:34 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 18, 2016 at 11:05 am

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