Trump versus Clinton?

[Brian37]

No, we cant, nor should we. Now that is not to say we should have wars every five years, but to let a region of the world that is still living in it's own dark ages .

It isn't our job to impose our culture, especially at gunpoint. What do you think aroused their anger against us in the first place, if not our meddling?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

First off ditch the word "culture", that is simply another code word religion hides behind along with "ethnic" and "race" to avoid scrutiny of bad ideas. Secondly no, it is not our job to be the world's police or have a dominion attitude. I think you missed the part where I agreed with you on that part. You are making arguments to things I am not arguing.

What you miss is that you cant simply ignore the world, reality does not work like that. Different groups do not live in separate galaxies. This is still the same planet. And unfortunately humans en mass have certain ideas that are divisive and harmful, and those ideas when held by enough people, do get political, and those people have weapons. 

No, do not ask me to ignore religion globally, and when I say globally, that includes locally and the attempts of our right  wing infecting politics to the degree we react by harming their groups in which not all are aggressors, IE Bush's lie that got not only our soldiers needlessly killed, but 10s of thousands of Iraqi civilians as well.

And you also hurt innocent people stuck in those places that DO want to catch up with the west. Like Malala and this lady. 

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2014/10/...n-affleck/

And those stuck in those states who have no voice who don't have the opportunity to escape like Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

Nor do you give confidence to these people who were stuck living under bad ideas.

https://www.facebook.com/exmna/?fref=ts

You are not going to frame life in an "all or nothing" narrative. Reality isn't as simple as that. While isolationist sounds nice on paper, it cannot be done in reality. And the same can be said with bad ideas locally too, if we ignored the cries of Susan B Anthony, or Martin Luther King Jr, or gays, we would still be living in a very oppressive past.

You are trying to equate that statement to the bullshit attitude Ann Coulter has "We should invade their countries an force them to convert to Christianity", which is NOT my argument.

I don't want America to take over the world, but no, if some individual, or group pick up a holy book, and uses it to justify harm to me it is absurd to think we should not respond. The only argument that is valid is to what degree, and that is where our long term policies have sucked since WW2. 

Saying "don't do anything" is as much as a utopia as "take over the world". Life is messy and you cant always frame it in simple solutions.