(April 18, 2016 at 10:37 am)Alex K Wrote:(April 18, 2016 at 10:07 am)pool the great Wrote: Well, in my opinion, dogs do show varied behavior, some respond positively to physical punishment and some respond negatively, so it seems kind of unfair to generalize like that, I give my boy Rambo a good slap in the back when he goes and drinks drainage water it has taught him that behavior will cause him pain so he refrains, he didn't become more aggressive, he actually respects me more and doesn't drink drainage water anymore. Again, it depends on the dog you deal with.
Read again what I wrote. I was talking about punishment that the dog has no way of linking to a specific action of his because it is delayed or otherwise confusing.
This is not true for all dogs.. I would say yes for most but not all. I have some extremely smart dogs, or I have very stupid one that respond well to my training. The point being you can't take one dog or one breed of dog and say it's training will yield the same result on all dogs, and or then take that a step further and say those who do not train a dog like I do are evil.
There are 1000 different ways to train dogs, and hundreds of different tools. the thing is to match the dog with the right tool and the right training method.
The same is true for children. I have worked with children of all grade levels and all mental capasity levels all my life. From raising them myself, to sunday school teacher, to boy scout leader, to camp consolur, to big brother program to various mentorships to just taking kids, to organized inner city programs, and even to help single parents from time to time. I've personally seen a wide spectrum of personalities and levels of understanding. However what I don't understand is the hippy mentality that says we are all unique snow flakes, but at the same time can be reared the same exact cookie cutter way.
No, some children require reason and understanding and can be coaxed into anything even a strangers van if the stranger simply uses the same 'reasoning' methods the parents use. (they did a 20/20 on this and guns and strangers) What they showed us is some children have been trained to respond to a certain reasoning style from anyone they consider to be any type of authority. Then there are others who need who no amount of reasoning will ever change the child's will. Taking the tool of a good spanking out of the parents tool box is a foolish mistake. Because again not all children are the little cookie cutter ginger bread men you all make them out to be.
Like with the dogs you have to use the right tool with the right training method on the right person. Those who only say one type of training method are bad short sighted people no matter how they discipline their child.