RE: Free will
April 25, 2016 at 11:12 pm
(This post was last modified: April 25, 2016 at 11:52 pm by IATIA.)
(April 24, 2016 at 7:20 pm)Shadow_Man Wrote:IATIA Wrote:Your god and time travel run in the same boat. If the future exists, then we are the past and have already
made the choices. We would be nothing but shadows playing out what has already happened.
I have already responded to this line of thinking. I'll reiterate. We already have a past. Knowing what we did yesterday does not change the free nature of our will in choosing what we did yesterday. We will think thoughts and make choices today, of our own free will. Tomorrow we will know what those thoughts and choices were. That knowledge will not suddenly make our thoughts and choices from today the only possible choices we could have made. Time is irrelevant.
Regards,
Shadow_Man
Obviously you have misread. If we have free will, no one, not even your god, can know what will we do. If the future is known, then it must exist and that makes us the past. If we are the past, then we have already done everything and made every choice that we can. This 'now' us is only aware of now and our 'past' us is only aware of that past. We are not the same. Effectively, there are gazillions of us, each aware of their present 'now'.
You cannot have it both ways. Either we have free will and god does not know every choice that we will make or god does know every choice that we will make, because we have already made the choices and there is no free will.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
