(May 7, 2016 at 8:20 am)Shadow_Man Wrote: No. Many of your fellows have declared unequivocally that if Christianity was true then they would still choose hell rather than Heaven.
What do you mean "if Christianity was true"? Of course it is true. Now whether or not christ ever lived is a different story. He certainly was not the 'son' of a non-existent deity. If he lived, he was nothing more than a wandering preacher.
As to christianity, at the 'pure' level, it is just as good or bad as any other 'prophet' in attempting to teach goodness. This information is nothing new. The teaching of goodness shows up in the early writings of Mesopotamia, Babylon, Sumeria, etc. and continues throughout the ages to present day writings, be it fiction, nonfiction, myth or legend. There is nothing special about christ, just a cog in the wheel.
It is once the tyrannical, warmongering god comes into the picture that one chooses hell. Heaven offers nothing but servitude. The opposition of god offers true freedom. It was god's opposition that helped free Adam and Eve. No killings can be directly attributed to god's opposition. One can bring up Job's story, but firstly, there is nothing that says god's opposition did the actual killing, only that it participated in a bet which resulted in killing. It may be the opposition did not really expect god to kill just to make a point or god's opposition may never have participated in the bet in the first place.
Am I against christianity? Not in and of itself, but I am strongly against religion, any religion.
Would I choose Hell over heaven? I do not believe in either, but for sake of argument, I would absolutely choose Hell over heaven.
And remember, if heaven is supposed to be the shit, then why did one third of the angels rebel?
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson
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-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
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-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy