(May 8, 2016 at 12:13 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:(May 8, 2016 at 12:05 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Why not? I'm not being asshole, I just really don't get it. How am I not fully in control of making that decision?
For us to be fully in control would require other factors beyond our control to not control our decisions, but they do. Any reasons we give for our behavior we can then ask "but what was the reason for that?" ultimately the reasons stretch back into the past beyond our own consciousness. These "reasons" being causes, being causality... it ultimately stretches back not just past our own conscious awareness, and not just before our adulthood, and not just before our birth, but back to the very beginning of the universe or in other words back to causality and time itself within existence itself, which I believe is eternal (the concept of existence itself ever being anything other than existent by definition seems entirely incoherent to me: existence itself has always existed, but time, causality and "the universe" began).
Oh and you're not an asshole at all. You're absolutely lovely and I'm happy to try and explain my own views on the matter to you
-Hammy
Sorry it took me all day to respond! Hmmm...okay. So, let's say the reason I "decided" to hold my pee is because I was watching a funny movie and I didn't want to miss my favorite part. In my mind, I weighed my options, and then "chose" to wait until a commercial. I could have just as easily gotten up and went pee. But you're saying that my choice wasn't really a free choice at all? Because I happened to like that particular spot in the movie then there is no real way I would have made any other choice? Something along those lines?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.