(May 23, 2016 at 4:38 pm)Ignorant Wrote:(May 23, 2016 at 12:58 pm)dyresand Wrote: i do my homework because i want to do my homework and i have a goal. That being said i don't have to i put off my written assignments and do those later
because i can and because i have the option too.
That's great! Remember that when freedom comes back up.
Quote:That's the issue on both statements god is being all knowing a all knowing being does not allow for free will. There cannot be free will if there is a being that is all knowing
you just worded both statements differently
I did indeed word both statements differently. Do you think the two statements describe two different ideas?
IF you understanding an all-knowing god's determination of creation as an imposition of necessity, then, of course, free-will does not exist.
IF, however, you understand an all-knowing god's determination of creation as an imposition of contingency (which I think coincides with our experience), then free-will MAY exist. But until we get past that, there is no point in talking about free-will.
You stated in both all knowing you cannot have a all knowing god for both you just cant. That's the obvious issue, a all knowing being does not allow for free will.
However if said being did not know everything then sure free will by all means can/could exist.
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