RE: Free will
May 26, 2016 at 12:31 pm
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2016 at 1:11 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Regardless of whether events happen contingently, just because, magic, or for no particular reason, I must choose whatever is described or the claim to foreknowledge is false. I cannot choose b, if the foreknowledge claims a -and- is true. This is a freedom my "free will" does not have. This is a necessity of a true claim to foreknowledge. Do we disagree?
-as to comments of contigency, not at all relevant to my opinion of free will, foreknowledge, and the things people say to maintain their beliefs in either/both...this contigency business turns gods omnscience, in context, into an issue of running stats before football games. If they put in x yards rushing, and hold the team to x yards passing - then they win. I don't think that passes for knowledge, let alone foreknowledge with human beings, and I doubt that it's your intention to reduce god to a cosmic bookie......just to establish some "sense" in which foreknowledge and free will are compatible. Remember, that you've been softballed here in being allowed to simply assume that either exist in the first place. If you can't come up with f'ing concepts for them both that don't rely on equivocation in order to keep them from crumbling under each other's respective weight...I think the whole thing is DOA.
-as to comments of contigency, not at all relevant to my opinion of free will, foreknowledge, and the things people say to maintain their beliefs in either/both...this contigency business turns gods omnscience, in context, into an issue of running stats before football games. If they put in x yards rushing, and hold the team to x yards passing - then they win. I don't think that passes for knowledge, let alone foreknowledge with human beings, and I doubt that it's your intention to reduce god to a cosmic bookie......just to establish some "sense" in which foreknowledge and free will are compatible. Remember, that you've been softballed here in being allowed to simply assume that either exist in the first place. If you can't come up with f'ing concepts for them both that don't rely on equivocation in order to keep them from crumbling under each other's respective weight...I think the whole thing is DOA.
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