RE: Free will
May 26, 2016 at 4:49 pm
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2016 at 5:05 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 26, 2016 at 4:23 pm)Ignorant Wrote: Yes we disagree. You wrote "I must choose whatever is described ["regardless of whether events happen contingently"]". <= This doesn't make ANY sense.I didn't ask you whether or not we agreed that events are or aren't contingent- which is explicitly the point of phrasing the question in such a manner. Do we disagree regarding the subject of the question I asked? Can I freely will b, if gods foreknowledge says a?
Quote:Tell me again how the concept of possible options is irrelevant to your opinion of free will?NP, already elaborated upon with the example of the roads. Having two -actual- roads in front of you, let alone wispy "possible roads"....doesn't speak to free will. Hell, I may not even have a choice, let alone a freely willed one. Much time is wasted trying to establish options as though this established free will.
Quote:You're right, that isn't my intention AT ALL. Clearly, you are struggling to distinguish contingency from choice and freedom. That is ok, I did too."you don't agree because you don't understand" - said every forum apologist ever. I do understand, I still disagree. I keep telling you that I'm not discussing the nature of contingency, not making any claims regarding determinism..but you keep going on about it.
Quote:Does a fruit tree make fruit according to certain conditions or not?Why does it matter, we're discussing free will's compatibility with foreknowledge, not fruit set on my peaches compatibility with foreknowledge.
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