RE: Someone stole the body!
May 26, 2016 at 6:49 pm
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2016 at 6:49 pm by Gemini.)
(May 26, 2016 at 12:46 am)Godschild Wrote:(May 25, 2016 at 1:05 pm)Gemini Wrote: You believe in a god who is not omnibenevolent? Doesn't this entail that you worship a deity who at times inflicts pain on his creations for the sheer pleasure of watching them suffer, or permits suffering to occur with no moral justification whatsoever, but just because he is indifferent to it?
Please don't be stupid or take me as stupid, God's providence over His creation means He can and does allow misery, pain, sickness and other things that He wills, not to see and enjoy anyone suffering but to complete His will that He had for His creation before He created it. Why didn't you answer the question, could it be you do not have one. God's providence over His creation is His and His alone because it's His creation and He actually can do with it a He desires.
I don't take you as stupid, I take you as someone who evidently doesn't believe that God is omnibenevolent. To say that he "can and does allow misery, pain, sickness, and other things" in order to "complete His will" isn't to defend the moral character of your deity. "His will" could as easy be malicious or indifferent to suffering as it could be benevolent.
Do you believe that God's commands, whatever they are, are morally justified, just because it was God who issued them? If so, then I suppose you could claim to believe in a God who is omnibenevolent, although in that case his omnibenevolence is a trivially true entailment of divine command theory.
A Gemma is forever.