(June 10, 2016 at 6:17 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote:Marcion was the one who believed there is a good go and a bad god. That the bad god was worshipped by the jews and created this world, so Jebus was sent to correct these errers. Am I correct?(June 10, 2016 at 12:16 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But "Luke" is not mentioned by anyone prior to Irenaeus in the late 2d century who seems to be the guy who attached the names to these otherwise anonymous stories....Ehrman says that, too. Instead, the first gospel is the Gospel of the Lord...which turns out to be about 2/3 of "Luke" and guess who mentioned it? Marcion. In the same canon (which was also the first of its kind) in which he introduced paul and his so-called epistles.
By Irenaeus' time (c 185) the proto-orthodox ( to use Ehrman's word) had begun to coalesce all this stuff into what they considered a coherent doctrine. Curiously, right around this time the Greco-Roman philosopher Celsus became the first to mention anyone named "jesus" in his work On The True Doctrine. This is not a coincidence or a miracle. This crap got rolling in the mid to late 2d century.
I still find it incredibly funny that "Paul" was originally the poster-boy for Marcionite Christianity, "discovered" by Marcion.
Yet, Paul's letters clearly state things about Jesus that would refute the Marcionite take on Jesus.
So, since Marcion promoted Paul as a prophet, one can only assume that:
- Marcion never actually read Paul's letters.
- Marcion was hoping nobody else would read Paul's letters.
- The original letters of Paul were heavily revised.
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It all smells as fishy as the Pisces sign that symbolizes Jesus.
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