For Americans tired of NRA bullying.

[The Grand Nudger]

Nope sorry, that is yet another dead script.

Strange, because I've spent alot of time in this thread showing that an assualt weapon ban does -exactly- what I've said it does, and fails to do what you think it does.  

You are not going to make the issue legal vs illegal. The gun death issue regardless of the legality at time of buy does not negate the flooded market. And legal at time of buy does not prevent someone from harm after a legal buy. The Va Tech shooter had no record when he legally bought his guns. The Newtown mother also legally bought her firearms. And the Orlando shooter also flew under the radar.

I'm sorry that our system is set up so that we have to wait until someone actually commits a crime before we treat them like a criminal, except, ofc...that I'm actually not sorry about that at all.

My enemy has never been INDIVIDUALS who will go their entire lives without harming others. My enemy is the fear marketing of the NRA that is merely their to protect profits. Nothing is going to change until our country changes it's attitudes about how we view firearms. Just like the Middle East wont change until enough people understand that far too many individuals have a bad attitude about how they view the holy book they call the Quran.

Howsabout you come up with some laws that effect the enemy, then, rather then the people you've acknowledged aren't?  Or maybe stop thinking of it like that in the first place?  

I don't care about your "intent" as an individual. You are merely one person in a larger sample, and even the legal gun buyers go into a buy with a very bad attitude that nothing will ever go wrong after that legal buy. The majority of gun injuries and deaths are not from gang violence or mass shootings, but in the home, from BOTH legally and illegally obtained guns.

There are alot of things you don't care about, facts chief amongst them.....but I don't see how that strengthens your case?

I have a friend from Oklahoma, who grew up with guns in his house, who still likes them, but even he says our status quo is insane and even he says he hates what the NRA has become. 

Your friend and I are in agreement.

We cant simply continue pumping them out like candy and we cant simply keep thinking no record at time of buy is the only vetting we need. What is paralyzing the nation is the marketing the NRA does. It has gotten a very few minority gun owners in just enough of a big enough mass to hold everyone hostage. Just like it is wrong to blame all Muslims for what the few do, but also wrong for the majority of Muslims to ignore that small minority that is just big enough to hold back progress.

Just stop buying the fear. There is no conspiracy on the gun safety side. Nobody should object to wanting to reduce gun violence.

There we go with the finger pointing again. -Nobody-.....nobody....nobody is objecting to that. Let me repeat, just one more time...so that it might sink in.....nobody is objecting to that.

@Esqui....Desire is irrelevant, take a look at our assault weapon bans and you'll see that they can very easily have that effect..because the people who write them don;t seem to know anything about guns, which might explain why they can't understand why people who -do- have a modicum of knowledge on the subject think that. For my part, I never ascribe to malice what can be explained by ignorance or indifference.