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The Fly
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RE: The Fly
(July 12, 2016 at 2:19 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(July 12, 2016 at 1:43 am)Sheed1980 Wrote: All I can say to u is this. U know how I feel towards it and I know how u feel towards it. We can't judge each other, this is for Allah to do. He is The Wisest of judges. So we all can do ask is Him to do is guide us to His right path and live it according to what we feel is right in our hearts. This is why Allah tells us in the Qur'an "Die not except in a state of Islam". He doesn't say die as a Sunni, Sufi, or Shi'a so these are choices we have to make along with the differences within them. Just as Muslims who attack innocent Non-Muslims in the name of Allah. I can't judge them because I feel that is totally not right. This is for Allah to do. So may Allah forgive us for our wrongs, guide us to what is right and may He bless us with the best.

But we must be testifiers and witnesses on the wrong deeds people do in this life:

(Sura 5 Verse 8 )   O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm for Allah, witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what you do.

If one is ignorant, it's fine. But when you see a crime in front of you, and persist to ignore it as if it didn't take place, then you're literally throwing this verse in the gutter


Islamists -like Al Qaeda and ISIS- practice all kinds of crimes, the first is murder, you must testify against them if you believe in the above verse.
Want proof? Ask Syrians and Iraqies.

Of course, you must also admit and testify, that the American army -for example- is practicing organised crime too in warfare by using retarded UAV strikes and going on with unjustified invasions.

Actually, Islamists and CIA make a perfect team :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

A cartoonist (even if he made fun of God, Mohammed and every prophet) doesn't deserve  to get killed because he didn't kill anybody.
That if you follow the Quran:

( Sura 2 Verse 178 )   O you who have believed, prescribed for you is legal retribution for those murdered - the free for the free, the slave for the slave, and the female for the female. But whoever overlooks from his brother anything, then there should be a suitable follow-up and payment to him with good conduct. This is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy. But whoever transgresses after that will have a painful punishment.

(Sura 5 Verse 45 )   And We ordained for them therein a life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth, and for wounds is legal retribution. But whoever gives [up his right as] charity, it is an expiation for him. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the wrongdoers.


But if we follow the Sunna, the Hadiths, these verses magically get converted, and execution is not only about an "eye for an eye"; but it's for changing religion, having sex while married with another woman, etc.

No sheed, personally I will testify against this wicked religion that is called "Sunni faith".
Just like I shall do with the Shiite faith; Chop Chop to Sura 5 verse 8 ? Just like I would stand against nuclear weapons and the invasion of Iraq, and the religion of nationalism and the religion of imperialism 
But again ur judging on what people do themselves as opposed to what we are taught in the religion. I agree with u with ISIS, Al-Qaeda and all other terrorists groups. They are picking up a misunderstanding of Allah's word in the Qur'an and using it towards their own hatred. But as Allah says in the Qur'an no soul shall bear the burden of another. Just as there are Muslims who fornicate, drink alcohol, gamble, and commit every other sin that can be listed. There are good people and bad people. So all I can do as a Sunni Muslim, who I'm sorry u feel is wicked, is preach against these people that are doing wrong and spreading a bad name of our peaceful Islamic religion, pray that they are rightly guided, and show people what Islam is really about by living the right lifestyle and setting a good example for people to see that more Muslims around the world oppose the hatred violent acts of ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and terrorists. Then Insha'Allah they say to themselves "Islam must really be a good peaceful religion". They just have to realize that in our world there are some knuckleheads out there from all religious backgrounds. But as Allah also says "There is no compulsion in religion". So nothing is forced on any of us. So if these people don't mend their conduct and they continue to live these violent and hateful lifestyles all we can do is tell them "this isn't the way". They have to make the choice of whether they will change or not. Allah has promised that I will not answer to Him for their deeds nor will they answer to Him for mine. But we all shall answer to Him on how we live our lives and this is when we will be fairly judged.
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