Is white privilege real? To what extent?

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Also just to reiterate I also think that lumping groups together is precisely what the phrase white privilege does.

It lumps together all white people of all nations, religions, circumstances, economic statuses, health levels and age.

I am not, have not, and will not speak about the privileges (or lack thereof) of the races in other nations, because I don't have the grasp of knowledge I feel would be required to speak intelligently. If it helps understanding, I have been and will only be speaking of the American context.

And lumps together all non white people which as you pointed out is irrational since black people and Asians do have totally different circumstances and so often enjoy the privileges some people would say are white privileges.

I don't agree. Privilege in this context is not talking about the people themselves, but rather, about social attitudes towards social groups. When I'm talking about white privilege in America, I am not talking about whites in America. I am talking about the social attitudes and power structures that accord different treatment to the different races.

You're at least trying to have a sense of humor so you haven't made my list yet.

I'd prefer you to either put me on your list or ban me. Seems the most "logical", thing to do.

Climb down from the cross there. He can't put you on ignore because he's a moderator, and he cannot ban you absent a clear infraction of rules and a quorom of staff agreement.

No sense volunteering for martyrdom, kid. I suspect you'll have to earn your ban.