OK! Debate with philosophers and one theologian worthy of watching in its entirety. But , cut to the chase and watch 24:00 to 27:00 to witness claim that electron emitting photon is example of something from nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFAko80vgwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFAko80vgwg
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!